T-case won't transfer

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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby B.O.B. » Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:27 pm

Let rephrase, I meant the rollers in the idler shaft.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby akaFrankCastle » Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:41 pm

Ah! Gotcha.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby B.O.B. » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:33 pm

I guess the same could work for both. This one would be a little more tricky though.

On another note, How do you get the rear output shaft out of the case. Is there a c-clip that needs to come out, slide some of the gears out and then pull the rest out? Need to get it pulled out so I can replace what is needed and put it back together. Thanks for all your help.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby Viperwolf1 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:55 pm

Rear output is just 5 bolts.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby B.O.B. » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:36 pm

Some of the gears just slide off in order to get the shaft pulled out?
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby B.O.B. » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:32 pm

Okay, I was talking about the wrong shaft. I meant the front shaft. That's the bad thing of having the computer at one house and the truck at another. Do you hve to take the flange yoke off. I tried bit that booger is on there and I am almost rounding off the nut. Any tricks up anybodies sleeve they can shout out to me.

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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby Kinder » Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:16 pm

Yes, the yoke has to come off and if it's a T style case there is a snap ring up against the case inside of the 1st gear.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby B.O.B. » Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:11 pm

All right, now am I correct that it takes a thin wall 1 1/8 socket for that stupid nut. I have the edges almost rounded off and don't want to do any more damage.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby Viperwolf1 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:37 pm

B.O.B. wrote:All right, now am I correct that it takes a thin wall 1 1/8 socket for that stupid nut. I have the edges almost rounded off and don't want to do any more damage.


1 1/8" is correct. I always replace the nuts. Fastenal has new ones but you'll need to buy 20 or so.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby B.O.B. » Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:51 pm

Why 20? Is it because they only do mass buys?
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby Viperwolf1 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:37 pm

Bulk packaging.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby Gregg » Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:03 am

My local Fastenal opens their bulk package for me and I grab a couple nuts. I just have to make sure I'm wearing my skinny jeans when I go in.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby Eck » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:44 am

Gregg wrote:My local Fastenal opens their bulk package for me and I grab a couple nuts. I just have to make sure I'm wearing my skinny jeans when I go in.


Do the skinny jeans make it easier to grab the nuts?
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby B.O.B. » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:46 pm

Gym teachers :laughing2:
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby B.O.B. » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:25 pm

Okay everything is disassembled. Now my next question before putting it back together. There are 2 detent rods in between the shift rails. Since I am going to J shift rails do I only need one? And if I only need the one which hole do I put it in? The one where I can push it all the way through or the hole that it can only go in the one way.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby Viperwolf1 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:33 pm

B.O.B. wrote:Okay everything is disassembled. Now my next question before putting it back together. There are 2 detent rods in between the shift rails. Since I am going to J shift rails do I only need one? And if I only need the one which hole do I put it in? The one where I can push it all the way through or the hole that it can only go in the one way.

You only need one and it goes in the rear hole.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby Justin » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:38 pm

Viperwolf1 wrote:You only need one and it goes in the rear hole.


Speaking of sentences you don't want taken out of context....
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby B.O.B. » Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:47 pm

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Question for the maestro. I know you paint your housings, how do you do it and what kind of paint? Do you primer it then paint over, or just paint it?

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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby Viperwolf1 » Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:45 pm

I use high heat engine enamel. Primer first. I find it easier to paint everything before assembly. Then you just gotta be careful with it.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby B.O.B. » Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:04 pm

Anybody know a part number for the bearing that is pressed on to the front input shaft I
Of the t case. Looking to get one from napa, autozone, blah blah blah. Waiting to hear back from the hut so we all know that could be a few days if at all.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby Viperwolf1 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:54 pm

Seals:
Input shaft seal (double lip)-CR #517383,Napa #NOS 18676, CR #18676 (good seal) (Do not use Timken #473179)
Output shaft seals-Timken #450185
Shift rail seals-CR #6204, Timken #471466
Yoke o-ring-1-1/4"OD x 1-1/8"ID x 1/16". Danco happened to be the brand at the hardware store and it is their #29.
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Bearings:
Input- SKF #307NRJ
Rear output-Timken #25877 (inner), Timken #15117 (outer)
Front output, J shift-Timken #14116
Front output, T shift-Timken #14131

Cups:
Rear output-Timken #25821 (inner), Timken #15245 (outer)
Front output-Timken #14276 (both T and J)

Yoke nuts: 3/4", 16 tpi, top lock

When setting the rear output endplay use a Timken #15118 in the rear position. It is the same size as the #15117 except the inner bore is a couple thousandths larger. This allows you to assemble and disassemble the output shaft without needing a press. Only use it as a setup bearing. Once the correct endplay is set, drop in the #15117 bearing, put the seal on and assemble the shaft.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby B.O.B. » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:22 am

Since I'm using a front output shaft from a j shift I should use the appropriate bearing.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby B.O.B. » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:45 pm

I have an extra peice and I don't know where it goes? Here is a pic
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby Viperwolf1 » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:54 pm

B.O.B. wrote:I have an extra peice and I don't know where it goes? Here is a pic


That only goes on the T front output shaft. Other washer is used with the J.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby B.O.B. » Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:04 pm

Cool, then I won't worry about it then.
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby D&D72 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:17 am

B.O.B. wrote:Cool, then I won't worry about it then.


we don't worry about left over parts on the airplanes either! :laughing2:
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Re: T-case won't transfer

Postby B.O.B. » Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:51 pm

Cool almost finally finished. Looks like it wouldn't shift because it was pretty gummed up inside plus the bushings were so worn the linkage was hitting the crossmember and binding up. Just need to finalize some little things then ready to rock and roll.
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