Wow, never really checked into this, last was the 1st year that I put non-licensed vehicle on the trails with a sticker and that was only because the dealer paid for it when I bought my boys some dirt bikes. I’m wondering how this is going to shake out and which roads/trails/areas will be “declared” as OHV routes and which won’t.

I’m with Zilla and questioning how the money will be used, I’m sure we could request a audit or report showing where the money has been going up to this point. Plus it looks like the enforcement piece will take a bit of time to get normalized.

I don't mind if the money goes to trail maintenance and all, but with the FS starting to use the philosophy "It's closed unless marked open" there will be less trails/roads to four wheel. That means more money for fewer trails then the state will see that as a way to divert the funds to social programs.

You mean like what they just did with all the DOW funds?

Just like that.

Whats up with the "recreation" part? So if I'm there giving paid guided tours I dont have to pay? ...another reason to bring a passanger?

(b) On and after January 1, 1991, the owner of every vehicle required to be registered pursuant to article 3 of title 42, C.R.S., and the owner or operator of every motor vehicle and off-highway vehicle from another state or country, when such vehicle is being used for recreational travel upon designated off-highway vehicle routes, shall obtain and display on such vehicle an off-highway use permit.

Total and utter BS!! Money is short and they are looking for ways to get into our pockets once again! Spent wisely, there is already enough money to maintain these off-highway routes, but instead of being wise, they figure out another way to take more of your paycheck!

I don't like the idea of having to register ATV's, dirt bikes, etc, but I can see where since they are using the roads, they should help to pay for maintenance. What I don't agree with is making those of us who have plates on our rigs to pay AGAIN for a sticker to simply drive down a FS road. Hell, I take 3 of the 4 rigs I have offroad regularly, so while the $30 ($10 each right?) a year isn't a killer, it boils down to the principal for me!! What about my trailer and camper? Where does it end? They, being the govenrment, seem to think the people are a bottomless pit for their reckless spending and soon, very soon, that pit will dry up.

J.D.

Correction, it's $25.25 ea., so that's $75.75 a year and becomes more of a burden. I have also considered crashing some friends camping parties, but I could take my Ford Focus there. Then I would have to get a permit for it... asinine!

SURPRISE!! little Cali right there...

J.D.

Good friend of mine bought a Razer 900 and they wouldn't give him OHV tags. Said they're too big and he'd have to go pay for full street plates. Then the DMV wanted him to put full lights/signals etc on it.

Thought that was the whole point of Polaris coming out with the Razor, a side by side that could go on quad tracks with an OHV sticker. At least that is what the guy at the Polaris dealer told me last summer.

So we are going wheeling next weekend (Labor Day MSV). Do you think we should get permits?

Sounds like it's illegal without them...

Am I buying any for my trip? - nope.

I am a "good citizen" and all but this ol boy won't be buying any until absolutely necessary.............

I think they said they are in the "information" stage so I just plan to play dumb if asked hoping they haven't moved to the "enforcement" phase just yet

This means ill spend another 100 bucks over the outrageous prices for plates. What next make every road a toll road? Or charge us by the mile? Its getting too much.

"supposedly" that is the case Rox, but the same discussion over on CO4x4 is going on and one fella got a ticket.

I can only guess that the holiday weekend will bring out the enforcers, but I'd be willing to take a chance, just keep Rox in front of you so he can block

Believe it or not this is a serious proposition amongst government lobbyist groups representing the road construction industry.

The Federal Gas tax is fixed at 28 cents per gallon and has been since the late 70s.

These funds, along with state gas tax funds, are routinely allocated for other "emergency" uses.

Couple this with the advent of more fuel efficient vehicles and the gas tax revenue projections show steady decline over the next twenty years.

They keep selling us car crazy citizens on road improvements which don't happen even if the "dedicated funding" is collected.

OOPS..................we were talking about OHV permits......................sorry.

Rox, you bring up a big point tho. The promises of dedicated funds are rarely kept. We need to nail these guys to the wall and tell them how we want our money spent and if it isn't spent that way, what penalties there will be. These people work for us!! They need to stop acting like elitists.

J.D.

I just got back from a little trail ride up lefthand canyon and stopped to read the signs. That one still said "OHV Registration is not required for vehicles with current license plates". Doesn't seem consistant, but that will be my excuse "Mr. Forest Service Man".

Just sent the phone pics I took to you. Good call for me to have these pics to show anyone giving me $hit for permits.

I'll try to post from my phone. Where would we go to get permits? motorcross cycle or bicycle shop?

My local motorcycle shop is where I get the regular OHV sticker / reg for our dirt bikes, I'm wondering if they'll have the permits? I'll swing by sometime today and see what they say, I'd hate to get a ticket for my one day of wheeling for the entire year.

Of course they would have a double standard. Why not, if you can have a standard why not make it a double. Well they may have to give me a few of them tickets cause I refuse I tell ya I refuse.