Saginaw Steering Pump

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Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby 75DBE » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:42 am

The bracket on my OE steering pump on my 75DBE is broken so I have the whole thing off. I was ordering a new bracket from WH but then I started thinking that with the larger tires that I have and the lift, I should -- if possible -- change out the OE steering pump with a Saginaw steering pump. So my question is -- anyone have one lying around that they would not mind parting with relatively cheap? Let me know!
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby akaFrankCastle » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:07 am

75DBE wrote:So my question is -- anyone have one lying around that they would not mind parting with relatively cheap? Let me know!


Any one of what? Saginaw pump? Or Saginaw bracket?

On the pump side, I think I have 3-4 in the garage. Probably good. If not, good for cores. Helluva price on them too.
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby 75DBE » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:01 pm

HAH! Well, if I can get a Saginaw pump and bracket together cheap, that would be awesome. If someone has the pump, I'd be looking to purchase a WH bracket to go with it. :-)
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby akaFrankCastle » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:11 pm

75DBE wrote:HAH! Well, if I can get a Saginaw pump and bracket together cheap, that would be awesome. If someone has the pump, I'd be looking to purchase a WH bracket to go with it. :-)


I'll check the garage when I get home.
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby Justin » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:58 pm

If you can't find one from a member, any parts store will have one for $50-70. They're something like $25 at most junkyards.
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby 75DBE » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:16 pm

So is a "canned ham" Saginaw steering pump a "canned ham" Saginaw steering pump? So if I see one I can't confuse it with any other type of steering pump?
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby 75DBE » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:29 am

So Zack has convinced me to just put a brand new Delphi / Saginaw "canned ham" style power steering pump in the Bronco, but as that was not originally on the vehicle, I don't have a part number and there are MANY Delphi / Saginaw power steering pumps available for the Ford. HELP!
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby 75DBE » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:38 am

So the Heavy Duty Delphi Pump Kit - Bronco/Saginaw box sold by WH for this Bronco was never stock equipment on the Bronco, though it seems like that is what I should get. I work at a part store now -- so if I could figure out the part number, I would probably be able to get it at a decent discount! Again, help!
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby Gunnibronco » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:44 am

http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showth ... ginaw+pump

good info I hope, let us know what you find, especially for the dual return pump.
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby 75DBE » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:54 am

Ok, I found that pump at Autozone (where I work now part time). But the pump that WH sells is not a dual return Delphi / Saginaw. What it the purpose / value of the dual return?
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby 75DBE » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:00 am

Pump will be about $40, though I am not sure it is the same quality as the WH version. Why would they be charging $200 for the same pump?
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby akaFrankCastle » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:04 am

The dual return provides you an easy option for running Hydroboost power brake systems. It is not necessary for running hydroboost, as the return line can be "T'd", however it does tend to make it a more aesthetically pleasing install. For you, I would pick up the single return pump.
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby akaFrankCastle » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:06 am

75DBE wrote:Pump will be about $40, though I am not sure it is the same quality as the WH version. Why would they be charging $200 for the same pump?


From their site:
Do you really want to settle for a twenty-five year old rebuilt Saginaw pump? We hate defects. You hate defects. So, why buy used stuff when you can have new? Our heavy duty Delphi pumps put out more pressure and pump more GPM (gallons per minute) than the factory units and they have a large reservoir for added fluid capacity.

We now use plated reservoirs as a standard feature. Not only do they look better but the plating adds superior corrosion resistance.
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby 75DBE » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:12 am

So it is just a matter of new vs rebuilt? Ok, got that. But I am not understanding the dual vs single return issue.
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby 75DBE » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:12 am

Never mind -- I didn't see both of your posts!
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby 75DBE » Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:51 pm

Ok, picked up my new Saginaw / Delphi power steering pump on Saturday! Really excited to get it in and hooked up! Now if I can just figure out how that new line is going to work! Hmmm...
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby akaFrankCastle » Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:57 pm

You guys have a big cabinet full of fittings and adapters at AZ, don'tcha?
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby 75DBE » Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:59 pm

Probably! But I have just not found them yet! I'll have to get you over there one evening and you can show me what I need!
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby RJLougee » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:06 am

The mid-70s Scout II used a Saginaw PS pump and Saginaw PS box that has the same fittings as the EB box. So..., you should be able to order the $15 Scout II PS pressure hose and have it plug right in, no adapters needed.
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Re: Saginaw Steering Pump

Postby 75DBE » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:26 am

Ah, that is great information. I think I will be getting this whole PS pump / connections / etc. in tomorrow night -- with a little help from some friends! I will see if I can get one of the Scout pressure hoses at work today. Thanks for the pointer -- much appreciated!
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