Rox Crusher's frame off refresh and 5.0 EFI swap

Post by **Rox Crusher** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:03 pm

Bought a 5.0 EFI Explorer engine this week-end so no turning back now.

Not sure how soon I will be putting it in though.

Gotta get harness and other related "stuff".

Post by **Justin** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:29 pm

Might make a couple of good tech days as part of the project. Swapping an engine, EFI wiring, etc. You know, the stuff that Viper does during catnaps.

Post by **Entourage** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:54 pm

I agree a tech class would be a great way to help get new motor installed. With the number of EFI's in the club, you should be able to do it right the first time. Going to be fun to see it come together and the costs and parts involved.

Post by **plumbdoctor** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:23 am

You gonna do the 2 pump system ??, or get the intank pump/tank set up?? It's cheaper to do the LP-HP setup, so you have more lettuce for the harness.

Post by **Rox Crusher** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:07 am

plumbdoctor wrote:You gonna do the 2 pump system ??, or get the intank pump/tank set up?? It's cheaper to do the LP-HP setup, so you have more lettuce for the harness.

Don't have a firm plan yet...........bought the engine on impulse.............so I gotta do all the researching and brain picking so I don't waste any of that valuable lettuce you mention.

I have a newish 23 gallon BCB tank and hoping not to take a hit on it.

Post by **Justin** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:46 am

Have you seen BC's accumulator setup? I'm thinking that when I go EFI (in 1000 years) I'll likely go this way. http://www.bcbroncos.com/fuelefi.html about halfway down.

Viperwolf1 · Post by **Viperwolf1** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:19 am

I would look at adding an in-tank pump to the BCB tank. Might need to weld in some baffles for the pump. The external accumulators and pumps can be finicky at high altitude/temp. Plumbing and wiring would be a lot cleaner with an in-tank pump too.

Post by **Entourage** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:31 am

I have heard in-tank fuel pumps last a lot longer because they are cooled by the fuel vs. external fuel pumps.

Post by **jim02** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:56 am

i have a slightly used accumlator from bcb and a carter external low flow pump, both were installed, engine fired up and then replaced with an in tank system. I also have a efi harness from a 89 mustang. If anyone here wants them call me or pm me.
next breakfast at golden corral i can let anyone that wants take a look at my efi setup.

Post by **Rox Crusher** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:34 am

Got it home last night.

Guy decided to throw in the wiring harness but pretty sure I won't be using it.

Sounds like I need to go with the in tank pump set up.

Post by **Moab Mike** » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:12 am

Rox, I have a spare in tank pump NIB if you want it. Trade you for your expertise on hydroboost.

Post by **Rox Crusher** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:58 pm

Seeing Zilla's low mileage (read super clean) 5.0 engine during the gear install tech session motivated me to get started on getting mine ready for installation this fall.

Viper graciously came over on Sunday and gave me some great advice on what I can and can't use (thanks again Phil).

Tonight I cracked that egg open and to my untrained eye everything looks really good.

Post by **akaFrankCastle** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:37 pm

Commemorating the 4 month anniversary of your buying the motor? laughing2

Looks like fun! Been thinking of pulling the trigger myself but too many irons in the fire as it is. Maybe this winter...

Post by **Gunnibronco** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:12 am

I'll be watching, I've got a 96 Explorer motor waiting. Since money is tight, and my carb'd motor is good, it will be waiting for a while. I'd see what I could do about coming to Denver to attend an efi swap. I think I've done enough reading to know most of what to expect, but I'd love to see it done.

Chad

Viperwolf1 · Post by **Viperwolf1** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:10 pm

That does look pretty clean inside Jeff. I wouldn't tear it down any more than that. Just run it as is. That has the re-usable pan gasket too.

Post by **777mechanic** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:29 pm

i'd wait til winter to do it , i think mine took about 2 months to get it all bought and ready to install

Post by **Rox Crusher** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:19 pm

777mechanic wrote:i'd wait til winter to do it , i think mine took about 2 months to get it all bought and ready to install

Yep, late fall / winter project

Post by **cobshane** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:19 pm

Entourage wrote:I have heard in-tank fuel pumps last a lot longer because they are cooled by the fuel vs. external fuel pumps.

That is exactly why there in the tank. The main reason those go out is cause people run them too empty. Chevys have a real hard time with that. Those pumps always seem to go out when they run them so low, then they fill the tank. Right then and there the pump poops out. Due to instant cooling.

Post by **Rox Crusher** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:38 pm

DANG IT SPENCER, I TOLD YOU TO STAY OUT OF MY TOOLS ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

and so the swap has officially started

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Post by **airbur** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:09 pm

Which tank and fuel pumps did you go with?

Post by **ZOSO** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:20 pm

Thats and awesome pic. Glad to see you making progress.

Post by **Rox Crusher** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:28 pm

airbur wrote:Which tank and fuel pumps did you go with?

I am gonna go with the BC Broncos EFI tank set up.

Post by **airbur** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:40 pm

Cool deal....going to paint the engine bay or is it in good condition?

Post by **Rox Crusher** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:14 am

airbur wrote:Cool deal....going to paint the engine bay or is it in good condition?

Lots of work to be done in the engine bay.

Gonna have time on my hands to get it in great shape so I plan to;

- rebuild steering column, linkage, and power steering box
- deal with rust in the cowl area
- deal with surface rust on in inner fenders
- new fuel lines
- new fuel vent line
- upgrade the headlights and related wiring
- paint

I am hoping to not get carried away and wander outside the engine bay !

Post by **airbur** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:24 am

Sounds like a great plan! Are you going to rebuild the tranny/transfer case while you have it all open? Or was that done recently? What color are you going to paint the bay? I found a source for the original Ford OEM colors and am planning to do that do mine.

Post by **Rox Crusher** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:42 am

airbur wrote:Sounds like a great plan! Are you going to rebuild the tranny/transfer case while you have it all open? Or was that done recently? What color are you going to paint the bay? I found a source for the original Ford OEM colors and am planning to do that do mine.

My Bronco has a ViperBuilt C4 and D20.

I might repaint it the same color which I believe is Ford's Blue Poly sumpthin or another. Or, since I am planning to repaint the whole thing in the next couple years I might paint it the new color which would be something close to the blue on Ford Raptors.

Post by **ZOSO** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:09 am

Rox Crusher wrote:
airbur wrote:Sounds like a great plan! Are you going to rebuild the tranny/transfer case while you have it all open? Or was that done recently? What color are you going to paint the bay? I found a source for the original Ford OEM colors and am planning to do that do mine.

My Bronco has a ViperBuilt C4 and D20.

I might repaint it the same color which I believe is Ford's Blue Poly sumpthin or another. Or, since I am planning to repaint the whole thing in the next couple years I might paint it the new color which would be something close to the blue on Ford Raptors.

Blue flame metallic!!!! The color of dads ecoboost.

Viperwolf1 · Post by **Viperwolf1** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:43 am

Rox Crusher wrote:
airbur wrote:Sounds like a great plan! Are you going to rebuild the tranny/transfer case while you have it all open? Or was that done recently? What color are you going to paint the bay? I found a source for the original Ford OEM colors and am planning to do that do mine.

My Bronco has a ViperBuilt C4 and D20.

Just don't abuse it much with that EFI motor or you'll void the warranty, like some people have done. burnout

Post by **Rox Crusher** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:34 pm

makin progress on the motor

Post by **airbur** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:35 pm

Beautiful!!!

www.ColoradoClassicBroncos.com

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