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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby totalchaos » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:21 pm

Well I took my first drive down the road in it with the 4.10 gears in it..she handles well but wow I think shes geared way too low..I mean maybe if I hauled it to the trail but with those gears shes not street worthy..I thought at first my trani wasnt shifting into high gear..its a c4 with a hurst star shifter..seemed like more of a drag vehicle though..but I put it in drive and I could feel all all the gears kick in..heck I even went through and hit each one 1,2 then D and I could feel the last gear kick in from second but to drive it the rmps were skyrocketing and I wasnt moving that fast..before when I had the 3.54s in it I could cruise 70 no problem but at 70 now I would peg the rmps..anybody have any ideas?maybe the transfercase is geared real low?Im kicking around throwing my 3.54 gears back in but want some input before I do..
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby ZOSO » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:31 pm

With 35's and 4.10's at 55mph you should be around 2600-2800rpm. If not then something isnt right.
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby totalchaos » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:34 pm

ZOSO wrote:With 35's and 4.10's at 55mph you should be around 2600-2800rpm. If not then something isnt right.

Maybe the overdrive isnt kicking in..thats about what it feels like seems like I should have another gear dont know what could of happened though
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby Jesus_man » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:36 pm

Your t-case in high is going to be 1:1 and won't affect your final drive ratio. I assume a C4 does not have an OD? Are you sure you're not on low range??

Using this site: http://www.rocky-road.com/calculator.html

with 35's you should be running around 75mph at 3000rpms.

Grab your gps and hit the highway again and give us some hard numbers as to mph and rpms...can work backwards from there.

If I leave my tranny in 4th, with my setup, I could probably cruise 65 comfortably.

Also, you won't be happy with anything less than 4.10's on the trail, unless you stick to 3 and under rated trails. Anything more technical and you'll quickly realize low gearing is king. So the time comes to decide what you really want to do with the rig or...time for an Atlas where you can run your 3.73's, but still have a great crawl ratio for the trail...

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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby crawlercreations » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:48 pm

totalchaos wrote:
crawlercreations wrote:Looks awesome!! You will be ready for the independence trail system in no time!! Jk, never take your bronco in there looking like that!!

lol not quite sure shes ready for indepedence I wish! Ill tear it down this winter and get it set up to hit the hard trails..hell I wouldnt mind throwing that kit you got in yours in mine..maybe you can do that for me? Im serious too..


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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby totalchaos » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:56 pm

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crawlercreations wrote:Looks awesome!! You will be ready for the independence trail system in no time!! Jk, never take your bronco in there looking like that!!

lol not quite sure shes ready for indepedence I wish! Ill tear it down this winter and get it set up to hit the hard trails..hell I wouldnt mind throwing that kit you got in yours in mine..maybe you can do that for me? Im serious too..


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Dont suppose ud want to build and install me one??lol I got the cash
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby ZOSO » Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:59 pm

totalchaos wrote:
ZOSO wrote:With 35's and 4.10's at 55mph you should be around 2600-2800rpm. If not then something isnt right.

Maybe the overdrive isnt kicking in..thats about what it feels like seems like I should have another gear dont know what could of happened though


No OD on the C4. 1:1 is all you get. It's just something we all live with when you build a wheeler. Good highway means crappy wheelin unless you get overdrive and an atlas.
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby totalchaos » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:12 pm

Jesus_man wrote:Your t-case in high is going to be 1:1 and won't affect your final drive ratio. I assume a C4 does not have an OD? Are you sure you're not on low range??

Using this site: http://www.rocky-road.com/calculator.html

with 35's you should be running around 75mph at 3000rpms.

Grab your gps and hit the highway again and give us some hard numbers as to mph and rpms...can work backwards from there.

If I leave my tranny in 4th, with my setup, I could probably cruise 65 comfortably.

Also, you won't be happy with anything less than 4.10's on the trail, unless you stick to 3 and under rated trails. Anything more technical and you'll quickly realize low gearing is king. So the time comes to decide what you really want to do with the rig or...time for an Atlas where you can run your 3.73's, but still have a great crawl ratio for the trail...

J.D.

Im gonna go back out and check the transfer case I was going to do that when I pulled back in but I was almost out of gas..the t case is all the way forward though I know that..maybe its stuck in 4 hi or 4 low kinda makes sence Ill try to mess with it and take another run...I seriously need to install an rpm gauge but that was one of the things I was going to do this winter when I install a new dash with all new guages...I was just going off sound and it sounds like a pissed off monster truck doing 90 down the road but only going 40-50..your probly right...I hope so anyway..actually it wouldnt hurt to change out the fluid in that t case either who knows how long its been in there..
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby ZOSO » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:33 pm

all the way forward to the dash is low range. pull it all the way back. thats 4 high.
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby Jesus_man » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:45 pm

Yeah, 50mph and screaming is low range. You'll be a bit happier in high range. You'll get about 40% more speed for the same rpms in high.
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby PonyCorral » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:58 pm

That is one nice ride!
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby totalchaos » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:16 pm

Ok now I feel like a complete retard u guys were right I'm use to this new age crap and thought hi was straight up..damn well it works now..lol guess I should have drove her a little more before I started building here..lol anyway yes it runs so much better now that the tcase is in the right gear I'm probly gonna hear about this one for a while huh? Oh well thanks for the help guys as usual that's why I love this club!
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby ZOSO » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:24 pm

So far it's you and Chad in a club.........
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby Entourage » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:28 pm

Thanks Chaos took for taking some of the heat away from me. lmao

I know you have went through hell getting your truck together and the rear end has been one of the headaches - cool when it is something little like that.
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby totalchaos » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:01 pm

Entourage wrote:Thanks Chaos took for taking some of the heat away from me. lmao

I know you have went through hell getting your truck together and the rear end has been one of the headaches - cool when it is something little like that.

Lol yeah I was about ready to tear into some gears and start swapping parts good thing I asked before I did or it really would have been a story to laugh about..ouch
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby Kinder » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:09 pm

Chaos - you're killing me... lol, I'm glad you got it sorted out, I bet it was screaming.
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby Rox Crusher » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:24 pm

kinder wrote:Chaos - you're killing me... lol, I'm glad you got it sorted out, I bet it was screaming.


I bet that thing was nearing take-off

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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby Jesus_man » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:50 pm

Middle row, left knob...
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Need me to get you one?? oops

LOL! Glad it was something simple as well. BTDT and got the t-shirt!

Really tho, finding 2-low takes a LOT of practice! But finding 2-High and 4-low are the priorities!

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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby totalchaos » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:00 pm

Wow that transfer case pattern was totally different then what I thought guess I know now..and yeah she was taking off like a rocket poor thing..blow the cobwebs out of that sob! All I have left now is install the front bumper and winch and build the rear bumper and gas can holder then buy a spare..and its good to go planning a trip to eagle rock either the first or second week of sept if anyone wants to play..
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby Jesus_man » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:51 am

I would love to hit the trails with you. First weekend I am out for sure. Second weekend, my wife works Saturday morning, so that means I have my son with me. He's not old enough to hit the trails yet. But, I may be able to swing a baby sitter.

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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby totalchaos » Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:59 am

Jesus_man wrote:I would love to hit the trails with you. First weekend I am out for sure. Second weekend, my wife works Saturday morning, so that means I have my son with me. He's not old enough to hit the trails yet. But, I may be able to swing a baby sitter.

J.D.

Sounds like it will probly be during the week Id imagine.. unfortunatly I work weekends so we would probly head up for a 2-3 day trip monday-wed or something havent found out for sure yet but Ill let you know when I do know..
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby Jesus_man » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:40 am

Yeah, I am out during the week for sure...
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby totalchaos » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:16 pm

Well ran into another problem ill have to fix before I do anything drove the Bronco 15 miles into town to get some new plugs and wires and on the way back it started over heating real bad so I'm sure ill have to replace the water pump or thermostat or the dang radiator..all the luck
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby Jesus_man » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:30 pm

Sorry to hear that. Hope you can get it up to snuff quickly. I am sure you will. You have made a lot of progress the last couple months!

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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby totalchaos » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:32 pm

I'm sure u guys have all replaced ur radiators With aliminum ones I saw one on ebay that was a 3 row and came with an electric fan is anyone running one of these or is anyone running electric fans and do they work good or at least better then this stock crap I don't want to have to mess with overheating issues seems every vehicle I get has them
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby totalchaos » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:58 am

Well I installed a new thermostat in it and still overheated I'm sure the radiator missing a fan shroud has a lot to do with it...guess the next step is to order that amunimum radiator with electric fan and see if that helps if not then order a new waterpump..
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby totalchaos » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:08 pm

Got my aluminum radiator and my electric fan in and installed today kicked on when the motor warmed up correctly so I guess ill take it for a spin tomorrow and see if I solved my problem I hope so..then ill go ahead and install my front bumper and winch tomorrow still waiting for my rear bumper to be delivered then ill install it and hopefully be ready to wheel..
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby totalchaos » Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:08 pm

radiator and bumper installed along with winch
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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby Rox Crusher » Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:17 pm

me likey

I really like the looks of that flat black finish on the bumper, it goes great with the blue

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Re: 66 Bronco Project

Postby socofn » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:09 pm

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