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kinder wrote:Rox - does your old top still need a couple of those rod keepers so the latch works more easily? Just asking since I pulled some items out of storage and have some lift gate parts if you (or Plumbdocter actually) need them.


Nope, I got that solved a while back

Thanks very much for offering
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Quit screwing around and post some pics already.....wait a minute...okay its not 4/1 anymore. Lets see it!
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Rox Crusher wrote:
76fordbronco wrote:
Rox Crusher wrote:Informal poll time:

I bought a really nice hard top with slider windows, fresh paint (white), and drip rail trim.

The white matches my stripes suprisingly well but little Madison wants me to keep the current color scheme.

Should I put the new top on and hope she gets used to it or transfer the smoked sliders and the matching rear glass to the current top ?


IMHO - Your little one is a smart cookie and I agree with her BUT I would recommend that if you stay with the current scheme, I would repaint the new top to match the current top.


winner, winner, chicken dinner

I just did some impromptu swapping with Plumbdoctor so looks like I will have a white top on it for a while and then paint it to match when I re-do the body in a couple of years.


Good call. Frau Castle LOVES your Bronco and that just might one day get me (or rather her) a second Bronco here.
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Im running.... how about you?
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ZOSO wrote:Im running.... how about you?


Not just yet, but very close.
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ZOSO wrote:Im running.... how about you?


Pics or it didn't happen.
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I got the Viper Charger pulley ready to go Jeff.
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Viperwolf1 wrote:I got the Viper Charger pulley ready to go Jeff.
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totally awesome !

Wednesday right after work or this weekend works for me
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You still on track for the breakfast?
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ZOSO wrote:You still on track for the breakfast?


doubtful, but don't let that stop you
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Rox Crusher wrote:
ZOSO wrote:You still on track for the breakfast?


doubtful, but don't let that stop you


If I cant find this vacuum leak it's the same on my end. Still have plenty of loose ends to tie up too.
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Rox Crusher wrote:
Viperwolf1 wrote:I got the Viper Charger pulley ready to go Jeff.
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totally awesome !

Wednesday right after work or this weekend works for me


Give me a ring when you get off work tomorrow. We can probably knock out the throttle and trans linkage pretty quickly.
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Sorry I haven't been keeping current with status updates.............

BC Broncos throttle cable, modded by Viper, installed and looking great.

Lokar shifter linkage installed and looks like it will work perfectly. We were expecting to have more trouble with this kit but nailed it on the second attempt.

Wiring harness is installed and almost finished making all connections.

Twin sticks are installed thanks to Kinder making a nice, simple, time saving, mounting plate for the advance adapter transmission adapter. I would have still been re-working my solution. icon biggin

Traveling this week so won't have time to get it finished in time for next week's BwB but I will be tearing up the streets / trails soon enough !

Thanks again to Mike, Phil, Shawn, and Kirk for all their help with making this a great project !
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Jeff,

I was rereading the last couple pages of your thread, and noticed you had some interference problems with the TFI and ECT sensor. I'm guessing you can clock the dizzy a bit and get the clearance you need. I guess I got lucky and was able to get everything in & timed on the first try. I put my gauge sensor in the heater line, and the ECT in the manifold.

Did the 4R70W fit under the body with no lift? I'm guessing so. I want to go with that tranny, but don't really want a body lift. A future 351 & Atlas may force me to add 1".
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Gunnibronco wrote:A future 351 & Atlas may force me to add 1".


A 351 with gt40 intake will force you to mod the hood or go with a 2" body lift.
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Gunnibronco wrote:Jeff,

I was rereading the last couple pages of your thread, and noticed you had some interference problems with the TFI and ECT sensor. I'm guessing you can clock the dizzy a bit and get the clearance you need. I guess I got lucky and was able to get everything in & timed on the first try. I put my gauge sensor in the heater line, and the ECT in the manifold.

Did the 4R70W fit under the body with no lift? I'm guessing so. I want to go with that tranny, but don't really want a body lift. A future 351 & Atlas may force me to add 1".


I decided to leave the ECT on the passenger side of the engine but re-located it from the side of the heater tube fitting to the top of the heater tube which solved that interference issue.

The Explorer water temp gauge sensor would have had the interference issue with the TFI but we decided to replace it with a Bronco style sensor which is much shorter and solves the issue.

The body of the distributor cap adapter still has a clearance issue with the Explorer fuel rail on the driver's side and the TFI module with the top of the power steering bracket.

We believe we found a sweet spot for the distributor that limits the ability to retard the timing (which would be rarely necessary anyway) but still leaves us some room to advance it if needed.
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Jeff,

I see, my mechanical temp sensor in the heater tube is shorter, and I'm not running the Explorer serp set up, so that must give me lots of extra room. I'd like to compare them side by side. I have about 90* of adjustment in my dizzy, the fuel rail hits the cap before anything.

I already cut a HUGE hole in my hood, the size of my old school hood bubble, just to fit my current Explorer/302 EFI set up. It was close, the hood cleared the TPS, but just barely, by less than 1/2". My body mounts are whipped, and the "geometry" of my body is way off. I feared that body flex and motor movement would end up with a damaged TPS, so I grabbed the nibbler and took no prisoners. So I'll either be stuck with the hood bubble, aftermarket hood, or a body lift regardless - I prefer a modded hood to a BL. I know 351s also interfere with the firewall a bit, but it looks like a ball peen hammer will fix that issue. I'm glad I don't have a show truck, it gives me lots of options. Function before fashion.

Looks like you need a 2" BL to clock an Atlas flat, I don't plan on that, at this point, but I was wondering about the tranny/body clearance. Maybe someday when my Bronco isn't a daily driver I'll add some BL lift, huge tires, and go all out, but not yet.
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Jeff,

I got your wiring harness sorted out. Just need to add some tape.
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Viperwolf1 wrote:Jeff,

I got your wiring harness sorted out. Just need to add some tape.
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Man that looks totally awesome !

Certainly better than it was.
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Viperwolf1 wrote:Jeff,

I got your wiring harness sorted out. Just need to add some tape.
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I hope that is a REAL long extension cord.
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getting closer..................

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Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet!
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Gunnibronco wrote:Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet!


Recognize the intake filter ?

Did you use yours ?

If so, how do you like it so far ?
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Yep, I saw that. I used mine too, sitting in about the same spot. It barely fit under the hood, had to move my starter soliniod down to help keep the filter as low as possible. You can really hear it suck air when you hit the throttle. Not sure if that is the filter or the minimal air intake. I haven't really driven it too much, and its all been high way driving, so its still pretty clean looking.

Your engine compartment is so nice looking. Maybe when I yank the 302 for a 351 I'll do something to clean it up. Never had my motor out.
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Rox Crusher wrote:getting closer..................

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That is mighty sweet looking!!!! Cant wait to see it on the trails this summer!!! keep up the good work!
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Jeff,

Do you need one of these? It's from a '77.
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Holy crap! You really ARE installing an engine:) Looks sweet!!
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Viperwolf1 wrote:Jeff,

Do you need one of these? It's from a '77.


you bet !
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That's a beautiful thing! You just need one of these:

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Looks really really nice Rox.
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