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So, considering my current set up, have a look at this picture and tell me what's "wrong" with this.

First clue in 1 hour. Second 1 hour after that if no one guesses. And attendees of the Kinder Welcome Back/76 Birthday party, you're not allowed to guess. Provided you can even remember what I talked about.

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Its missing the bottom half.. as well as some other misc parts.....
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D&D72 wrote:Its missing the bottom half.. as well as some other misc parts.....


It is indeed missing the bottom half. I am still on the hunt for a suitable "pair of pants" to put underneath this thing. And the other misc parts will come in time. But that's not what I'm fishing for.
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1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.

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akaFrankCastle wrote:
D&D72 wrote:Its missing the bottom half.. as well as some other misc parts.....


It is indeed missing the bottom half. I am still on the hunt for a suitable "pair of pants" to put underneath this thing. And the other misc parts will come in time. But that's not what I'm fishing for.

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Bragging rights? A 3speed boat anchor?
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Standard upper bolted to a gt40 lower? Silicone on the upper? Pic is a little dark.
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It's a GT40/Explorer upper.

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First clue, as promised.

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Truck lower? And is that a coolant temp sender in the IAT port?


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It is a truck lower. (Getting very warm.)

Senders and sensors are immaterial to the answer.
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What is "wrong" with a 5.8 gt40 lower??

Edit...that isn't one of those odd ball marine Ford/Volvo intakes is it?
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Absolutely nothing! After keeping eyes peeled for several months now, I found an old Craigslist ad in Los Angeles for a Lightning lower intake (searchtempest.com be praised). Add to that my recent score of the Explorer/GT40 upper from the salvage yard the other day, and 2013 should see me dropping in an EFI 5.8L in to the 72.
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302 Lower?

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crawlercreations wrote:
Edit...that isn't one of those odd ball marine Ford/Volvo intakes is it?


Possibly. I keep finding conflicting information concerning the casting numbers for the first year Lightnings. One site says the F3TE was the first actual Lightning lower. Some say RF-F2TE is also correct.
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zillacon wrote:What wrong with the pic? Thats an easy one. Its bluury as Fawk. Get a new camera cause your picture taking sucks.flipoff icon biggin

What did I win??????


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1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.

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The marine manifolds are cast iron.
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I just found one and Paypal'd a guy on Corral.net today! Wooooohoooooo, today was a good day. Got a good price, as far as 5.8 GT40 intakes go too. Long term plans, but I've been watching for a while! Now I can justify buying a good set of heads for my future 351. From his pics casting # is F3TE. A cast iron marine one was posted yesterday too. There have been almost 1/day for the last week or so on corral.net, if anyone is looking, I've passed up or been beaten to the punch multiple times over the last 6 months or so.

http://forums.corral.net/forums/attachm ... ag1198-jpg
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Viperwolf1 wrote:The marine manifolds are cast iron.


Well, this one is most certainly aluminum. That, or those curls I've been doing at the gym are paying off.
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1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.

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Gunnibronco wrote:I just found one and Paypal'd a guy on Corral.net today! Wooooohoooooo, today was a good day. Got a good price, as far as 5.8 GT40 intakes go too. Long term plans, but I've been watching for a while! Now I can justify buying a good set of heads for my future 351. From his pics casting # is F3TE. A cast iron marine one was posted yesterday too. There have been almost 1/day for the last week or so on corral.net, if anyone is looking, I've passed up or been beaten to the punch multiple times over the last 6 months or so.

http://forums.corral.net/forums/attachm ... ag1198-jpg


drool Now I have a new classifieds section to hawk. Thanks

You beat me on price. Barely, but still. I did notice one difference in our intakes. I will have to wait until next week to post it up though. Has to do with that tray on the underside. I don't have one. I have two smaller deflectors of sorts.
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1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.

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Glad I didn't give away my "secret" spot till I had taken advantage of it.

I was pretty stoked at the price, I could barely sleep till I heard back and paypal'd him. I've seen them sell pretty quick even over $400.00, so I consider myself lucky. I get the "digested" classifieds emailed each evening, and didn't respond for a few hours after he posted, and I figured someone else had probably beat me. I kept running home from work today, checking the internet till I was sure I'd "won"!
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I saw the way the sale panned out and it looked a bit shady on the seller's part to me. "First one to paypal me money..." Really? So 20 people send you cash and then expect you might return it when they didn't win? Crazy.

Anyhow...
I like to play out the "forgotten" Craigslist postings. I search the parts sections daily and email any interesting ads to myself. I give it a week, two weeks maybe, and then check to see if the ad is still up. If it is, i move to make an offer. Even better if the seller doesn't provide a very good description or mislabels stuff.

What do you think your timeline will be for installing that puppy? I'm shooting for next summer but I am also planning to swap in an entirely rebuilt driveline at that time.
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1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.

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I kinda freaked out when I saw he posted his address on the thread. He did send me his paypal address, about 10 min before his public post. But I was already at work. So I didn't get it till I came home for lunch, 3 hours later. I had an earlier email from him stating he still had the intake, I wondered why he didn't include his paypal address in that email. I agree, he broke the unwritten law of "first come, first served". I thought the same thing, what if I was second to post $ to his account? Would I get my money back? I looked over the seller's trader rating and everything seems very positive, so I'm assuming I'll get the intake. Time will tell. Hope I don't have to fight to get this resolved.

I don't have a schedule to get this done. I'm probably going to rebuild my 351, since my 302 is strong and my 351 was bought from Craigslist, and I'm not 100% sure of its condition. It had a cracked exhaust manifold, and sat outside for a while before I got it. I was mid way through my EFI swap when I got it, and haven't taken anymore time with the 351 since I put it on the engine stand. I'm thinking of a rebuild, with new cam and heads. I want it to be strong, but reliable, nothing too wild (aka: Airbur, although a stroker did cross my mind at one time).

Summer or winter of '13 would be great. I'd like to do a 4R70W and Atlas at the same time, but the motor will probably come first (trans & tcase would require new gearing, and probably a new locker). If my t-case gives up, I'll do the trans & tcase first (my t-case is one of the last original parts in my truck). A new suspension is going to come first. I must have ADD, I can't concentrate on one thing at a time!
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Gunnibronco wrote:I kinda freaked out when I saw he posted his address on the thread. He did send me his paypal address, about 10 min before his public post. But I was already at work. So I didn't get it till I came home for lunch, 3 hours later. I had an earlier email from him stating he still had the intake, I wondered why he didn't include his paypal address in that email. I agree, he broke the unwritten law of "first come, first served". I thought the same thing, what if I was second to post $ to his account? Would I get my money back? I looked over the seller's trader rating and everything seems very positive, so I'm assuming I'll get the intake. Time will tell. Hope I don't have to fight to get this resolved.

I don't have a schedule to get this done. I'm probably going to rebuild my 351, since my 302 is strong and my 351 was bought from Craigslist, and I'm not 100% sure of its condition. It had a cracked exhaust manifold, and sat outside for a while before I got it. I was mid way through my EFI swap when I got it, and haven't taken anymore time with the 351 since I put it on the engine stand. I'm thinking of a rebuild, with new cam and heads. I want it to be strong, but reliable, nothing too wild (aka: Airbur, although a stroker did cross my mind at one time).

Summer or winter of '13 would be great. I'd like to do a 4R70W and Atlas at the same time, but the motor will probably come first (trans & tcase would require new gearing, and probably a new locker). If my t-case gives up, I'll do the trans & tcase first (my t-case is one of the last original parts in my truck). A new suspension is going to come first. I must have ADD, I can't concentrate on one thing at a time!


Strong and reliable is what I am going for as well. No 427s here. Although I was considering 408 at one time.

Sounds like we might be shooting for the same time frame. I figure I will spend the next year filling up my garage with parts before I remove a single bolt to make this happen.
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I wanted to use the 400 I had in the 79 Bronco I pulled my axles from. Then, I realized the 400 didn't really fit well, and there was no good EFI kit. Then, I moved to the idea of a 408, too. Now I'm back to reality with a 351. I just talked to a guy today, who said I should stroke the hell out of the 351, but I think I'm over that idea. (He's stroking a 428 block to something like 460 for his Gran Torino). I'm interested in seeing how Airburs works/cools/etc when he finishes it. I think a strong 351 will be well balanced with the rest of my drive line. A 400 cubic inch motor would end up blowing up trans, tcases, axles, etc. And I'm not ready for D60s.
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Look what was on my doorstep today at lunch!

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