Black Smoke Donkey
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Rough weight estimates as it sits now.
Bronco weighs 5500 lbs as it sits now with soft top, 2 stuffed doors, 2 empty doors (stock doors are heavy, like 65 lbs ea).
Bronco trailer weighs 1000 lbs, hard top is off, but has the rack on it for the RTT. Using a generic 10% tongue weight that puts 100 lbs on the bumper when empty. I'll likely never go over 1000 lbs of cargo in it so 2000 lbs total, 200 lb tongue weight.
Camper should weigh right at 500 lbs when interior is complete, it's around 300+ lbs at the moment gutted.
"Most" modified Broncos seem to weigh around 4000 - 4500+ lbs based on a quick CB.com search. So I'll end up being around 6200 lbs with camper on and trailer hitched up, or about 2000 lbs heavier than a moderately modified bronco.
Sheesh, a TON heavier!
Bronco weighs 5500 lbs as it sits now with soft top, 2 stuffed doors, 2 empty doors (stock doors are heavy, like 65 lbs ea).
Bronco trailer weighs 1000 lbs, hard top is off, but has the rack on it for the RTT. Using a generic 10% tongue weight that puts 100 lbs on the bumper when empty. I'll likely never go over 1000 lbs of cargo in it so 2000 lbs total, 200 lb tongue weight.
Camper should weigh right at 500 lbs when interior is complete, it's around 300+ lbs at the moment gutted.
"Most" modified Broncos seem to weigh around 4000 - 4500+ lbs based on a quick CB.com search. So I'll end up being around 6200 lbs with camper on and trailer hitched up, or about 2000 lbs heavier than a moderately modified bronco.
Sheesh, a TON heavier!
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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
kinder wrote:Rough weight estimates as it sits now.
Bronco weighs 5500 lbs as it sits now with soft top, 2 stuffed doors, 2 empty doors (stock doors are heavy, like 65 lbs ea).
Bronco trailer weighs 1000 lbs, hard top is off, but has the rack on it for the RTT. Using a generic 10% tongue weight that puts 100 lbs on the bumper when empty. I'll likely never go over 1000 lbs of cargo in it so 2000 lbs total, 200 lb tongue weight.
Camper should weigh right at 500 lbs when interior is complete, it's around 300+ lbs at the moment gutted.
"Most" modified Broncos seem to weigh around 4000 - 4500+ lbs based on a quick CB.com search. So I'll end up being around 6200 lbs with camper on and trailer hitched up, or about 2000 lbs heavier than a moderately modified bronco.
Sheesh, a TON heavier!
Well. That's a bit heavier.

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Re: Black Smoke Donkey
BSD has been chugging along quite well, minus the torque issues. I picked up a WH extreme duty U bolt set at the swap meet, they can only help keep the reared where it's suppose to be.


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The axle walking under the truck on ya? Maybe time from an anti-wrap bar?
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My wrap trap seems to work well. Maybe copy it. It's pretty simple to fab
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Put bigger spring pads on the axles?
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kinder wrote:BSD earning its keep.
Setting up hunting camp ?
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Unfortunately no, but that's a great idea. I needed some timbers for a new buck & rail fence in the park.
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I'm not sure if its okay to be excited about oil filters, but this is cool.
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Dude, we still play with trucks. I think we've set the bar for excitement pretty low. 

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My buddy is an amsoil dealer if you need or want any of there stuff.
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It's okay to be excited about anything new for Broncos. I've got a new drive shaft u-joint coming today and I'm giddy like a kid on Christmas....
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I love shiny new parts. Especially cool stuff like bypass filters. But I'm kind of a dork.
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ZOSO wrote:My buddy is an amsoil dealer if you need or want any of there stuff.
Sweet, I'll hit ya up for his contact info when I need replacement parts.
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So far so good with the bypass installed, I pulled the stick after 1 month and the oil looks new. A old guy at my local Napa is running the same setup on his cummins and sent the oil back for inspection, so far he's pushed it to 75k and the oil tested clean. I'll probably push mine to 50k and send a sample in for a test. He swaps the bypass filter and adds the 2+ quarts that is needed for the filter and calls it good for a oil change.
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Are you using Amsoil?
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kinder wrote:So far so good with the bypass installed, I pulled the stick after 1 month and the oil looks new. A old guy at my local Napa is running the same setup on his cummins and sent the oil back for inspection, so far he's pushed it to 75k and the oil tested clean. I'll probably push mine to 50k and send a sample in for a test. He swaps the bypass filter and adds the 2+ quarts that is needed for the filter and calls it good for a oil change.
That should be 7500 and 5000, respectively. Correct?
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The Terrible One
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No on Amsoil, but could switch in the future, I'm running Cummins recommended oil right now.
And I mean 75,000 and 50,000, but those numbers look ridiculous in print. Next time I'm buying parts I'll ask him to write it down.
And I mean 75,000 and 50,000, but those numbers look ridiculous in print. Next time I'm buying parts I'll ask him to write it down.
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10% of those numbers looks believable. 10k is achievable with quality oil. But beyond that - you're going to spend more on testing than just changing the oil.
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Jesus_man wrote:10% of those numbers looks believable. 10k is achievable with quality oil. But beyond that - you're going to spend more on testing than just changing the oil.
I guess Im over kill. I run rotella t6 full synthetic and still change it every 3k.
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New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
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Which filter are you running on the bypass Kirk?
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The Terrible One
1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One
1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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I'm using the AMSOIL EaBP100. Here is a link to the system I'm running.
https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/ ... e=BMK21-EA
https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/ ... e=BMK21-EA
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BSD has had a busy year in the park this season. This is my latest project, replacing a foot bridge. The biggest pieces of timber where 8" x 12" x 28' Douglas Fir Timbers, about 750 lbs each.
Timbers were dragged down into the stream area, then I used two rigging block setups to get them to the abutments and one more to get them across.
Tons of fun and yes I did do the tiniest bit of crawling up the steep sections to reposition the Bronco correctly!
Timbers were dragged down into the stream area, then I used two rigging block setups to get them to the abutments and one more to get them across.
Tons of fun and yes I did do the tiniest bit of crawling up the steep sections to reposition the Bronco correctly!
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Black Smoke Donkey
Pics pt 2
In the last pic in this post is a very cool dude, Jake, white long sleeve T. He helped me with the project from the beginning and since I've never built a bridge before I learned a bunch of new skills. I'll be looking for other projects that he works on and I'll volunteer some time.
In the last pic in this post is a very cool dude, Jake, white long sleeve T. He helped me with the project from the beginning and since I've never built a bridge before I learned a bunch of new skills. I'll be looking for other projects that he works on and I'll volunteer some time.
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Done!
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That's sweet.
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Now that's what I call the Ultimate 1/2 Cab!
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