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Winch mounting

Postby Gregg » Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:53 am

I've got an 8000lb winch that I'd like to mount like the following:
http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showth ... p?t=128621
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http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showth ... p?t=128621


With the winch tucked up as far as it can go, the cable from the bottom would have a significant angle to go up to the fairlead. I read a little that suggests reversing the cable (so it comes out on top) would negate the braking mechanism. Keeping the cable where it is would spool just below the bumper and not have a place to mount the fairlead.

I'm just in the planning phases so any thoughts are welcome.
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Jesus_man » Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:41 am

I'd talk to the winch manf about the brake. If it does negate it, then I don't really see a problem with allowing the cable to roll over the bottom roller 90% of the time. That's what the rollers are for.

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Re: Winch mounting

Postby landshark » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:20 am

You should be fine at a angle using a roller fair lead. As mentioned that's what they are for. Make sure the wire doesn't contact metal before the roller so the cable doesn't fray.
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Viperwolf1 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:51 pm

Damn Shawn! I didn't think there would be much opportunity to pull winch cable at the mall parking lots.
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Justin » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:14 pm

landshark wrote:You should be fine at a angle using a roller fair lead. As mentioned that's what they are for. Make sure the wire doesn't contact metal before the roller so the cable doesn't fray.

X2. You might put some bracing behind the bumper to support the fairlead, but otherwise it should work fine.
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Rox Crusher » Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:43 am

my welder is getting lonely waiting to help with this project
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby mickphatmac » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:32 am

If you make your license plate flip up and lock while you are using your winch, I think I might pass out!!!

I really like the "stock" look design without the Huge bumper sticking out!!!
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Gregg » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:37 pm

Small change of plans:
I'd have to notch most of the bottom part of the bumper to keep it close to the grill. That would take out lot of the integrity. Plus the steep angle of cable to the fairlead (attached to the weakened bumper) didn't sound too good for my Mall Winching. So here's another idea:
Keep the cable just under the bumper, switch to synthetic cable, put a hawse fairlead on the existing tray.
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Rox Crusher » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:33 pm

Sounds like a good plan.

How far does the bumper stick out compared to stock location ?
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Gregg » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:44 pm

About 2".
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Viperwolf1 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:17 pm

Stock bumpers aren't known for their strength.
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby sykanr0ng » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:15 am

LoCoFoMoCo Racing makes stock looking bumpers out of 1/4" plate, and customizes them in many ways.
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Gregg » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:10 am

sykanr0ng wrote:LoCoFoMoCo Racing makes stock looking bumpers out of 1/4" plate, and customizes them in many ways.

Are they free?
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Justin » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:24 pm

No, but they're easy to build.
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Gregg » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:22 am

I've got all the mounting plate and hardware finished. Big thanks to Justin for welding the spacers to the winch plate!
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I'm currently trying to wire the winch correctly. I'm looking at the installation manual online:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/B1PHLur32FS.pdf
If anyone has a smitybuilt XRC8, I could use some confirmation:
From Motor:
A: long black cable with (no cap) to "-" battery
B: short black cable (with red cap) to "2-" on solenoid
C: short black cable (with yellow cap) to "4" on solenoid
D: short black cable (with black cap) to "3" on solenoid
Red cable from "+" battery to "1+"

Wires coming out of solenoid:
Black wire to "A on motor"
White wire to "4" on solenoid
Brown wire to "3" on solenoid
Green/yellow wire to remote
Blue wire to remote

Red wire from "1+" to remote
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Viperwolf1 » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:20 pm

Wiring looks correct. Those solenoids sound troublesome though. Here are some tips: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t ... te-up.html
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Gregg » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:52 pm

Good call. I read something about RTVing the solenoid over at TacomaWorld.com while I was looking for a solenoid diagram. I went ahead and sealed it while I was waiting for someone to look over my post. I'm not sure I want to tear into the winch to replace the grease just yet.

I tested the winch and it worked great. I only had to switch 2 remote wires so the "in" was in and the "out" was out. Next, I put it on the tray, mounted the tray (which fit almost perfect) and now I'm working on the stock bumper fit. It'll be out a couple inches but the spool lever is going to mess things up. I'm not sure what to do with that just yet. I'll post up more pics when I have the bumper on.
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Viperwolf1 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:28 am

I wonder if it might be possible to re-clock that entire gear housing 90 degrees. If it's all one piece with the mounting base then probably not.
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Gregg » Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:54 pm

I had a great idea to re-clock the gear housing to move the spool lever out from behind the bumper. As luck and time would have it, it worked great. In combination with the bumper out 2", the lever can be reached and turned easily (I'm leaving out the 5 hours of time to figure out how to re-clock and fix the rusted up lever spring and bearing).
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All I have left to do is:
make and mount the control box ( which I may have a few pink zip ties for that)
Get a hawse fairlead and synthetic line
Touch up paint
Get stuck somewhere.

Big thanks to all that helped with ideas, pics, and welds!
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby sykanr0ng » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:55 pm

You may not want the spool lever to be too accessible.
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Viperwolf1 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:16 pm

It looks pretty good. I mean, it would, if I could see it, which was the goal.
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Justin » Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:42 am

Looks great! Seems like a really good solution given your goals for the rig.
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Rox Crusher » Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:06 am

Shawn, that turned out great.

Can't wait to see it in person !
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Moab Mike » Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:48 am

Rox Crusher wrote:Shawn, that turned out great.

Can't wait to see it in person !


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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Gregg » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:59 pm

It'll be at the breakfast tomorrow if you're going....
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Re: Winch mounting

Postby Moab Mike » Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:59 pm

Gregg wrote:It'll be at the breakfast tomorrow if you're going....


In sunny So Cal and won't be making it.
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