Rox Crusher's 77 sport
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport
I bought all new lifters for my build. You probably know how to do it but here is a link I found useful. It's how to check pushrod length.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5MjAxnGeGKw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5MjAxnGeGKw
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport
everything but the pushrods are new...........
thank you for that link, it was helpful
thank you for that link, it was helpful
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Pull one that's the correct length and one that's loose. Measure them. If the same I'd say you have some lifters that are collapsed. Did you soak the new lifters in a bucket of oil? Pump them up? Prime the oil system before starting?
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ZOSO wrote:Pull one that's the correct length and one that's loose. Measure them. If the same I'd say you have some lifters that are collapsed. Did you soak the new lifters in a bucket of oil? Pump them up? Prime the oil system before starting?
We let the lifters soak in oil for about an hour.
Didn't prime the oil system before starting.
Do you think any damage has been done so far ?
I didn't see any metal or anything in the head galleys.
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport
Just retorque them. They should be bled by now.
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport
If you didn't prime the engine before starting it the lifters will scream for a bit. That hour soak won't do much. It'll take a little while before they get pumped up enough to not clatter. Fire it up and let run for a bit, they'll quiet down.
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport
Its on a harley but works for all hydraulic lifters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g84UKZg8zZk
If these are pedistal rockers they are not adjustable. if they are stud mounted then the loose pushrods should have the lash adjusted.
If these are pedistal rockers they are not adjustable. if they are stud mounted then the loose pushrods should have the lash adjusted.
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04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport
they are pedestal rockers.
So how long should I expect to run the motor to get the lifters to prime themselves ?
So how long should I expect to run the motor to get the lifters to prime themselves ?
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Could be less than a minute or it could be 10. Or, to be safe, you could pop the distributer out(cam sensor if distributerless) and prime the system well before another start up!
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport
get a primer and pop the cps out. hook it to a good drill. Run it for a while to pump it up. leave the valve cover off and keep checking the "loose" pushrod to see if it tightens up.
Rob
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New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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I checked the torque on the rockers and they were all good.
I let it idle for almost 20 minutes. It seemed to quiet down some, and while it is still pretty noisy, but it no longer has an erratic sound to it.
I'm guessing the lifters are now primed and that the pushrods are now tight.
Still noisier than I think they should be so I will probably remove the valve cover again and check for lose ones.
I let it idle for almost 20 minutes. It seemed to quiet down some, and while it is still pretty noisy, but it no longer has an erratic sound to it.
I'm guessing the lifters are now primed and that the pushrods are now tight.
Still noisier than I think they should be so I will probably remove the valve cover again and check for lose ones.
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport
well did it get any better?
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04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
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ZOSO wrote:well did it get any better?
Dunno, been globe trotting all week
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ZOSO wrote:well did it get any better?
Nope, they somehow got shorter
They are about fiddy thousandths shorter than necessary
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So, The Bronco Master (not you Shawn) figured out precisely what was needed.........which meant we had to go with push rods that were 60 thoughsanths longer and use a 30 thousandths shim to get the effective length we needed.
It now purrs like a roller rocker kitten.
Just gotta get the exhaust leak at the passenger side collector sealed up. This is the same place we had trouble on Phil's.
Thank you Phil !
It now purrs like a roller rocker kitten.
Just gotta get the exhaust leak at the passenger side collector sealed up. This is the same place we had trouble on Phil's.
Thank you Phil !
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport
Rox Crusher wrote:So, The Bronco Master (not you Shawn) figured out precisely what was needed.........which meant we had to go with push rods that were 60 thoughsanths longer and use a 30 thousandths shim to get the effective length we needed.
It now purrs like a roller rocker kitten.
Just gotta get the exhaust leak at the passenger side collector sealed up. This is the same place we had trouble on Phil's.
Thank you Phil !
Hmmm, I recall someone else mentioning pushrods.
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Moab Mike wrote:Rox Crusher wrote:So, The Bronco Master (not you Shawn) figured out precisely what was needed.........which meant we had to go with push rods that were 60 thoughsanths longer and use a 30 thousandths shim to get the effective length we needed.
It now purrs like a roller rocker kitten.
Just gotta get the exhaust leak at the passenger side collector sealed up. This is the same place we had trouble on Phil's.
Thank you Phil !
Hmmm, I recall someone else mentioning pushrods.
that's the great thing about this club, so much great knowledge, experience, and willingness to help
thanks for all you do Mike
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Moab Mike wrote:Rox Crusher wrote:So, The Bronco Master (not you Shawn) figured out precisely what was needed.........which meant we had to go with push rods that were 60 thoughsanths longer and use a 30 thousandths shim to get the effective length we needed.
It now purrs like a roller rocker kitten.
Just gotta get the exhaust leak at the passenger side collector sealed up. This is the same place we had trouble on Phil's.
Thank you Phil !
Hmmm, I recall someone else mentioning pushrods.
Was it Sean?
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landshark wrote:Moab Mike wrote:Rox Crusher wrote:So, The Bronco Master (not you Shawn) figured out precisely what was needed.........which meant we had to go with push rods that were 60 thoughsanths longer and use a 30 thousandths shim to get the effective length we needed.
It now purrs like a roller rocker kitten.
Just gotta get the exhaust leak at the passenger side collector sealed up. This is the same place we had trouble on Phil's.
Thank you Phil !
Hmmm, I recall someone else mentioning pushrods.
Was it Sean?
many people said pushrods (including me, but that was an uneducated guess)
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351w test drive. https://youtu.be/XgPHrVymUbM
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Dude, your hood is missing...
So you going to Moab?!
So you going to Moab?!
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Sweet!
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Re: Rox Crusher's 77 sport
Very nice but I was expecting a 100' burnout!
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Which exhaust is that?
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Eck wrote:Dude, your hood is missing...
So you going to Moab?!
funny, on both accounts
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Moab Mike wrote:Very nice but I was expecting a 100' burnout!
I was going to rev it up and do a burn out after I got done giving jr a joy ride but if you watch the end of the video closely you'll notice that the shift linkage became disconnected so we had to deal with that
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akaFrankCastle wrote:Which exhaust is that?
Bronco Hut
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