ZF5 Engine plate
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pgilbeau
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ZF5 Engine plate
Most likely going to swap from C4/D20 to ZF5/Atlas in the next week or two and have a question. What engine plate do I need for this swap? Will the auto plate thats there work or do I need a different plate? I think I have everything else under control except that.
1969 Bronco: Full widths, 3 linked front end, 37's, hydro-boost, 4x4x2 box, ZF5, Atlas t-case, and fuel injected 302
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pgilbeau
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Re: ZF5 Engine plate
Maybe I worded this wrong or put it in the wrong section. Basically I am trying to figure out which engine spacer plate will work for this swap. I know the ZF5 will bolt to the 302 but I currently have C4 and my research seems to indicate that the difference between the flex plate and flywheel will make a difference for the starter. That being said I don't know if the stock spacer plate for the 302/C4 combo will work or if I need to get something like the spacer plate from a vehicle with a ZF5 in it. While I'm at it is there any interest in a complete C4/D20 set up? I plan to sell the whole thing once its out.
1969 Bronco: Full widths, 3 linked front end, 37's, hydro-boost, 4x4x2 box, ZF5, Atlas t-case, and fuel injected 302
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Re: ZF5 Engine plate
pgilbeau wrote:Maybe I worded this wrong or put it in the wrong section. Basically I am trying to figure out which engine spacer plate will work for this swap. I know the ZF5 will bolt to the 302 but I currently have C4 and my research seems to indicate that the difference between the flex plate and flywheel will make a difference for the starter. That being said I don't know if the stock spacer plate for the 302/C4 combo will work or if I need to get something like the spacer plate from a vehicle with a ZF5 in it. While I'm at it is there any interest in a complete C4/D20 set up? I plan to sell the whole thing once its out.
I would be interested in it depending on $
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Re: ZF5 Engine plate
The C4 block plate could be used in a pinch. The problem area would be the 2 or 3 bolts at the bottom of the bell. They most likely will not line up with the bell on the ZF. Probably only a ZF plate will bolt right on. The big thing to pay attention to is tooth count on the flexplate/flywheel. That will determine where the starter is located. C4 used 164 tooth so that plate would work as long as ZF flywheel is 164 tooth also.
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Re: ZF5 Engine plate
I have a zf flywheel sitting in the garage. I'll count the teeth on it tomorrow for you.
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Re: ZF5 Engine plate
cravenbronco wrote:I would be interested in it depending on $
I will keep that in mind, no idea on price at the moment. The C4 was said to have been rebuilt when I bought the Bronco and it is freshly painted. It seems to work fine and is set up with a floor shifter.
Viperwolf1 wrote:The C4 block plate could be used in a pinch. The problem area would be the 2 or 3 bolts at the bottom of the bell. They most likely will not line up with the bell on the ZF. Probably only a ZF plate will bolt right on. The big thing to pay attention to is tooth count on the flexplate/flywheel. That will determine where the starter is located. C4 used 164 tooth so that plate would work as long as ZF flywheel is 164 tooth also.
The info I got from BC Broncos says you can use the 164 tooth flywheel with the ZF5. I guess I will have to see what flex plate is currently installed 157 or 164 tooth. I was trying to locate a ZF plate but judging by the inventory listed at U Pull and Pay I have a slim chance of finding one, only a couple trucks to choose from.
phyler wrote:I have a zf flywheel sitting in the garage. I'll count the teeth on it tomorrow for you.
Thanks, it would be nice to know what it comes with. I just checked Oreilly and it has 164 listed, will check a couple others.
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Re: ZF5 Engine plate
FYI, my flywheel is 164. That came from a 5.8 with the zf.
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Re: ZF5 Engine plate
Thanks for the tips, going to pull the trans here in the near future and see what size the flex plate is and see if the current plate may work. If it won't work I will just locate a ZF plate.
1969 Bronco: Full widths, 3 linked front end, 37's, hydro-boost, 4x4x2 box, ZF5, Atlas t-case, and fuel injected 302