Pricing Help C4/9" etc.

[pgilbeau]

Looking for some legitimate advice on pricing some parts. I have a C4 with the D20 adapter which was said to have been rebuilt when I bought my Bronco, probably less than 100 miles driven by me. fluid was clean and had no particles in it when drained/pulled. Also looking to sell the rest of the stuff in the picture but have no ideas on values. I also have an EB 9" (small bearing) with a Detroit and 4.56's. Just looking for some advice on what I could expect to get and/or the best ways to sell (i.e. part out or sell complete.

[Justin]

I've always made more money parting out and have found that things sell faster.

[pgilbeau]

I've always made more money parting out and have found that things sell faster.

I knew that, don't know what I was thinking there. Mostly just trying to figure out values on stuff like the C4, etc.

[akaFrankCastle]

Looks like your C4 is a case fill unit that's been converted over to 4x4. The case fills are less desirable to Bronco guys as the design is weaker than the pan fill. That'll hurt resale on that part.

If it were pan fill, I'd think your full trans swap with D20 could bring in about 1000-1200. I'm probably a bit off though. Broncos and parts seem to be all over the place with prices lately.

[pgilbeau]

Looks like your C4 is a case fill unit that's been converted over to 4x4. The case fills are less desirable to Bronco guys as the design is weaker than the pan fill. That'll hurt resale on that part.

If it were pan fill, I'd think your full trans swap with D20 could bring in about 1000-1200. I'm probably a bit off though. Broncos and parts seem to be all over the place with prices lately.

Thanks for the info, I really want to let this stuff go at a fair price and you are right about prices being all over. I have seen $650 asked for a C4 that needed to be rebuilt and other prices I could find upwards of $1200 on rebuilt 2wd units. So is the difference the pan fill tube goes directly in the pan and the case fill goes through the case right above the pan?

[akaFrankCastle]

There are some other differences too. Viper can speak better to those. But the bell housing method of mounting to the case is another difference. On the pan fill, the bell housing bolts directly to the case. Case fill bell housings attach to the case by the pump bolts.

[Viperwolf1]

There are some other differences too. Viper can speak better to those. But the bell housing method of mounting to the case is another difference. On the pan fill, the bell housing bolts directly to the case. Case fill bell housings attach to the case by the pump bolts.

Yes, that's the outside difference between case and pan fill. There are also early and late C4's of both types. Early is everything before 1970. The early ones have some weaker internal parts. If you showed a pic of the other side of the trans I could tell you which it is. I see it has a floor shift style lever on it. That wouldn't work for a column shifter. It can also be a toss up on the number of clutch disks in the packs. A car C4 (case fill) wouldn't always have as many disks as a truck C4. If it is a late C4 with a fresh build I could see you getting $800 for the setup.

[pgilbeau]

Pic from the other side

[Viperwolf1]

Its a late C4.

[pgilbeau]

Its a late C4.

So I could get $800 for the whole set up, D20 and everything in the pic or just the trans?

[Viperwolf1]

I was thinking the whole thing. D20s aren't really worth much, maybe $100.

[pgilbeau]

I was thinking the whole thing. D20s aren't really worth much, maybe $100.

Thanks for the info and help, I really didn't know anything about the C4/D20 but I am starting to learn. Will get it listed in the near future since I don't have room to keep it around.

[Gunnibronco]

So the floor shift style C4 can't be converted to column shift control?

[Viperwolf1]

So the floor shift style C4 can't be converted to column shift control?

It can. You would just need to swap the lever. Bronco levers are hard to come by but I have a supply that can be used to convert a floor shift lever.

[Gunnibronco]

Ok thanks.