Black Smoke Donkey

Post by **BroncoRaider** » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:05 pm

BSD has gone national.

http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showth ... p?t=274347

Post by **ZOSO** » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:13 pm

Far better than the response on Facebook yesterday.

Post by **Rox Crusher** » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:17 pm

ZOSO wrote:Far better than the response on Facebook yesterday.

Was BSD the source of that BS ?

Post by **akaFrankCastle** » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:27 pm

Rox Crusher wrote:
ZOSO wrote:Far better than the response on Facebook yesterday.

Was BSD the source of that BS ?

It was. Some dude from Colorado, who by all appearances only owns a Camaro, was talking about how "some people shouldn't be allowed to own a welder."

Of course he decided to be a chicken crap and delete his post once it came out that Kirk is in Colorado and it's a work in progress.

Post by **Digger** » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:04 pm

akaFrankCastle wrote:
Rox Crusher wrote:
ZOSO wrote:Far better than the response on Facebook yesterday.

Was BSD the source of that BS ?

It was. Some dude from Colorado, who by all appearances only owns a Camaro, was talking about how "some people shouldn't be allowed to own a welder."

Of course he decided to be a chicken crap and delete his post once it came out that Kirk is in Colorado and it's a work in progress.

HEY, DON'T MAKE FUN OF MY CAMARO :laughing2:

I'm laughing at some of the comments on CB, all while not surprised that BSD is in front of Cabelas.

Post by **TOOLMAN** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:50 am

Rox Crusher wrote:
ZOSO wrote:Far better than the response on Facebook yesterday.

Was BSD the source of that BS ?

This is why I stay away from the national site these days. Getting more Pirate4x4-ish these days.

Post by **Jesus_man** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:20 am

Some folks just lack vision. I feel sorry for them...

Post by **hockeydad4-22** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:46 am

And not one comment about the pre-runner front fenders....

I know this, every time he shows up at a breakfast, his rig gets more attention from outsiders than most, if not all the others combined. Must be the end of the world SHTF appeal. If he ever gets the sound proofing done, we will all want to ride along with him.

Post by **Kinder** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:33 am

Man oh man! Thanks fellas for defending me on the national stage!

Post by **Kinder** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:57 am

Finally getting to my axle upgrade, seriously needed as I have broken enough axles and u-joints and also crushed enough pinion parts to know my 1/2 ton axles won't last beyond street driving.

Starting with the rear D60 since it'll be a little easier, cutting off the factory spring perches and moving RuffStuff replacements inboard, upgrades will be an ARB and torque tamer.

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Post by **Digger** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:53 pm

What's that out of and what brakes are those?

Post by **landshark** » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:04 pm

I think that's out of a late 90's E350 if I remember right.

Post by **Kinder** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:31 pm

Yep, 99+ E350, nice axle with factory disc brakes and cable actuated e-brake. This one is setup with LS and 410s, shame I'm dropping the ARB and 350s into it for my diesel.

Mocking up the new spring perches, might get it under BSD by the end of the weekend. I still need to decide if I'm leaving the flange on it, right now I'd like to keep it.

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Post by **Jesus_man** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:47 pm

You have 8-lug wheels lined up?

Post by **Digger** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:40 pm

kinder wrote:Yep, 99+ E350, nice axle with factory disc brakes and cable actuated e-brake. This one is setup with LS and 410s, shame I'm dropping the ARB and 350s into it for my diesel.

Mocking up the new spring perches, might get it under BSD by the end of the weekend. I still need to decide if I'm leaving the flange on it, right now I'd like to keep it.

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I did not know they were using 60 rears that late. I thought it was Sterling axles across the board, save for a few Dana 80s.

So does that make it a standard or metric bolt pattern?

Post by **crawlercreations** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:03 pm

Digger wrote:
kinder wrote:Yep, 99+ E350, nice axle with factory disc brakes and cable actuated e-brake. This one is setup with LS and 410s, shame I'm dropping the ARB and 350s into it for my diesel.

Mocking up the new spring perches, might get it under BSD by the end of the weekend. I still need to decide if I'm leaving the flange on it, right now I'd like to keep it.

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I did not know they were using 60 rears that late. I thought it was Sterling axles across the board, save for a few Dana 80s.

So does that make it a standard or metric bolt pattern?

The E vans were standard 8 on 6.5 until 2006 or so. I picked up some wheels for my truck for super cheap cause everyone thought they were metric off a '99 E350.

Post by **Kinder** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:22 pm

Jesus_man wrote:You have 8-lug wheels lined up?

I do, some E rated 37s on 17" rims that Bobby helped me with. I need to pull them out from under the tarp and take a pic. It's also time to prep the rear openings and fit the rear WCB fiberglass pre-runner fenders.

Post by **Kinder** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:29 pm

Digger wrote:
I did not know they were using 60 rears that late. I thought it was Sterling axles across the board, save for a few Dana 80s.

So does that make it a standard or metric bolt pattern?

I'll add that not all the D60s under the E350s are full float, some are semi, so if anyone is looking for one make sure you know the difference before you pull it.

Post by **landshark** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:51 pm

and that D60 should accept 35 spline axles.

Post by **Digger** » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:46 pm

crawlercreations wrote:
Digger wrote:
kinder wrote:Yep, 99+ E350, nice axle with factory disc brakes and cable actuated e-brake. This one is setup with LS and 410s, shame I'm dropping the ARB and 350s into it for my diesel.

Mocking up the new spring perches, might get it under BSD by the end of the weekend. I still need to decide if I'm leaving the flange on it, right now I'd like to keep it.

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1487881854.117111.jpg

I did not know they were using 60 rears that late. I thought it was Sterling axles across the board, save for a few Dana 80s.

So does that make it a standard or metric bolt pattern?

The E vans were standard 8 on 6.5 until 2006 or so. I picked up some wheels for my truck for super cheap cause everyone thought they were metric off a '99 E350.

Good info!

Post by **TOOLMAN** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:10 am

kinder wrote:Yep, 99+ E350, nice axle with factory disc brakes and cable actuated e-brake. This one is setup with LS and 410s, shame I'm dropping the ARB and 350s into it for my diesel.

Mocking up the new spring perches, might get it under BSD by the end of the weekend. I still need to decide if I'm leaving the flange on it, right now I'd like to keep it.

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One word....Meaty!

Post by **Kinder** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:21 pm

Installed after a week wait to source the right U bolts, who knew the E350s used Superduty spec'd axles. I'll get the rear fenders opened up and mount the matching fiberglass. I'll be in fwd for a week until the driveshaft is modded.

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Post by **Jesus_man** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:43 pm

Nice rimz!!!

Post by **landshark** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:58 pm

I love the 8 lug look. Even better for strength!

Post by **Kinder** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:13 pm

Jesus_man wrote:Nice rimz!!!

Bobby's recommendation, I like the D hole look and the back spacing is aggressive so they don't stick out too far.

Post by **Justin** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:13 pm

Looks great! What tire size did you end up on?

Post by **Kinder** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:08 pm

Justin wrote:Looks great! What tire size did you end up on?

37x12.5x18 I wanted a E load rating so I bumped up to 18" rims.

Pulled out the KP60 front to start prepping it, it's from a farm truck so a full rebuild is necessary.

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Mocked up the Wrap Trap today, I'll need to move some electrical and plumbing before installing it, but the ridges around the ABS sensor are going to be perfect for mounting the diff end.

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Post by **ZOSO** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:45 pm

looks good Kirk. Get those rear quarters on and some paint.

Post by **Jesus_man** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:01 am

I have some concerns of that wrap trap making your truck ride rough. As your suspension compresses the axle moves backward slightly, but with that trap all tightened up, you are hindering that movement. Perhaps there is something there I am not seeing and knowing you, there is, but I've seen a lot of folks run similar designed ladder bars and complain of rough riding.

Post by **landshark** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:08 am

I have the same wrap trap - I havenΓÇÖt noticed any ride issues as its not a solid piece technically, there is a bushing on one end that absorbs shock and vibration. Matter of fact it saved me in moab when i lost one of my centering pins on my rear leafs early on Poison Spider - i wheeled most of the day with just one pin and that wrap trap.

I am a fan especially with the torque my engine makes as I would have lost my driveshaft and probably leafs quite a while ago without it. Not to say there isnΓÇÖt anything better - it seems to work for me :)

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