Power steering Q's

Post by **cravenbronco** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:44 am

So I'm currently running a manual steering box. I'm wanting to go to power steering.
What all is going to be needed and what will need to be changed out. In order to accomplish this ?

This is what I have

Power steering pump
Power steering bracket
2 groove pulley's
Belt's

What I think is still needed

Steering box
Steering line's (pressure and return)

Am I missing anything and how hard is it to accomplish this ? A day project or more ?

Post by **TOOLMAN** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:20 am

IIRC, I think you have to replace the older one-piece steering shaft with a two-piece jobby. It took me a day and a half to do in my younger, dumber days (1998-ish). I think the worst part was figuring out how to take the one-piece shaft out without having to take the top off.

Post by **Dirtheadz** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:00 pm

running a stock EB box? I would consider the Saginaw/ canned ham pump with WTO mod & power steering cooler regardless. Should only take 30 minutes (famous last words, lol).

Post by **Eck** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:25 pm

Which Bronco? If it's smaller tires, you should be fine with the stock pump, otherwise you might consider Ben's Saginaw suggestion. The other thing you'll probably have to do is reinforce the frame where the pump attaches. Not sure how thick of a plate you'll want to add- someone smarter than me can chime in. If you have everything and can pull the 1 piece steering shaft easily- a day should be plenty.

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Post by **cravenbronco** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:21 pm

Eck wrote:Which Bronco? If it's smaller tires, you should be fine with the stock pump, otherwise you might consider Ben's Saginaw suggestion. The other thing you'll probably have to do is reinforce the frame where the pump attaches. Not sure how thick of a plate you'll want to add- someone smarter than me can chime in. If you have everything and can pull the 1 piece steering shaft easily- a day should be plenty.

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It will be going in to the Half Cab.

So I guess now I'm going to start looking for the missing pieces to get this done.
Thanks again everyone

Post by **landshark** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:57 am

I think mike meant reinforce the frame where the steering box sits. If you look at the vendors kit you can reproduce it with some 1/2" stock. The nice thing about the kit is it comes with sleeves so you don't squish the frame but you can make those too.

Post by **D&D72** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:12 am

I may have a pump, pulley and cooler for ya.

Post by **cravenbronco** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:12 am

Ok so what I have found out is that the factory pump will only work with a original Ford bronco steering box.
If I was to go to a signaw pump I will need to get a aftermarket Steering box. Also going this way is the pump bracket going to be different ?

Post by **landshark** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:19 am

Go with the Saginaw and the 4x4x2 box. You can pick up a bracket for the pump from WH or BC broncos. I bet someone here on CCB has a bracket and steering box... if you wanted to you could just pull a pump out of the JY, they were run on a ton of different models of chevy's and fords of various years.

Post by **Eck** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:42 am

cravenbronco wrote:Ok so what I have found out is that the factory pump will only work with a original Ford bronco steering box.
If I was to go to a signaw pump I will need to get a aftermarket Steering box. Also going this way is the pump bracket going to be different ?

So I think you are actually saying 2 separate things. 1- the factory pump will only work with the original stock ps box. 2- the Saginaw pump only works with aftermarket steering boxes (ie. the 4x4x2). I am not entirely sure about the answer to the 1st question but that could be true. However, a Saginaw pump will work with the stock/original Bronco steering box. That is what I am running on my Bronco.

Post by **Justin** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:49 am

The various pumps and boxes should play ok together with adapters or easy to source custom hoses. The pump bracket for the Saginaw is easily sourced from the vendors.

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Post by **ZOSO** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:24 am

Just buy the complete kit. This is what I was/am running. Had the Saginaw pump before and it worked great. Now running an explorer pump with no issues.

https://www.tomsbroncoparts.com/product ... bronco-new

Post by **Gunnibronco** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:03 am

cravenbronco wrote:Ok so what I have found out is that the factory pump will only work with a original Ford bronco steering box.
If I was to go to a signaw pump I will need to get a aftermarket Steering box. Also going this way is the pump bracket going to be different ?

I don't think that's right. I ran a factory 6 turn box and Sag pump, all from a Tom's Bronco Parts kit. The hoses just need to be made to fit.

If anyone wants to get rid of a stock pump & pump bracket, I'd be in the market. I want to add PS to the 72, and wouldn't need the Sag set up.

Post by **Dirtheadz** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:28 am

my $.02 is stock ford pumps suck, but hey thats just me. The squeal and noise they produce, they sound like they are always laboring and sh!ty caps (so leaks). That being said, do they work, sure do. A Power steering pump is nothing more than a mini hydraulic system. You could technically run any pump you want with AN adapters and figuring out your mounting. I ran AN fittings and made hoses and routed to my liking versus "what the man says will work" #anarchy lol. Heck if was me to do over, I would run a remote reservoir system, but really its all in what you want/ taste. Stock vs Non stock. What the heck do I know, I dont even have a Bronco!!!!

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Power-Ste ... ,2072.html

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