PS Low Pressure Fitting

Post by **ScottBarnes** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:23 pm

I installed a dual return PS pump, and the bend in the low pressure fitting on the gear box is too severe now. I'm sure I can cut off the line with a tubing cutter, but would prefer to get a new line so I've got some sort of "barb" on the end to keep the 3/8" id hose from slipping off. Does anyone know where I can get a new line made locally?

Post by **BroncoRaider** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:30 pm

Parker Hose in Denver will make one up while you wait.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Parke ... 04.9052702

Post by **ScottBarnes** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:14 pm

Thanks -- I'll swing by there next week

Post by **Kinder** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:14 pm

I believe the NAPA Auto Parts in Parker will also make up hydraulic lines.

Post by **ScottBarnes** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:23 pm

Kinder wrote:I believe the NAPA Auto Parts in Parker will also make up hydraulic lines.

LOL - believe it or not, I didn't realize there was a NAPA in Parker!! hahaha

Post by **Moab Mike** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:48 pm

Next to Walgreens at the SW corner of Lincoln and Parker Road.
:burnout:

Post by **Jesus_man** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:18 am

Can they build in a 45* like the other fitting? Perhaps that would avoid a future issue?

Post by **ScottBarnes** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:24 am

Jesus_man wrote:Can they build in a 45* like the other fitting? Perhaps that would avoid a future issue?

thats what IΓÇÖm hoping for. IΓÇÖll let you know how it goes.

Post by **ScottBarnes** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:25 am

Napa guys looked at me with crossed eyes and tried to point me to a bearing place downtown Denver. Off to Parker Hose on 46th

Post by **ScottBarnes** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:07 am

Well, the Parker hose guys couldnΓÇÖt make the piece like I wanted because their tooling is too big - but - they pieced together some parts that got me what I needed. This was a great find because they can make up custom hydraulic lines (including SS) and they were super helpful. IΓÇÖll be back in biz soon. Just in time for a ball joint replacement later this week! [emoji30][emoji30]

Post by **Jesus_man** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:22 pm

One step at a time...

Post by **Kinder** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:25 pm

ScottBarnes wrote:Napa guys looked at me with crossed eyes and tried to point me to a bearing place downtown Denver. Off to Parker Hose on 46th

ThatΓÇÖs unfortunate, my go to guy there retired last year. I miss the old timers.

Post by **BroncoCrawler** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:51 pm

FYI they probably told you to go to Whistler bearing which has a hydraulic hose division also, it rivals the Parker store. To my knowledge they are the only place in town that can custom make DOT approved brake hoses on the spot. Have used them many times along with hydraquip (formerly emrich & Hill) & the Parker store.

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Post by **ScottBarnes** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:56 pm

BroncoCrawler wrote:FYI they probably told you to go to Whistler bearing which has a hydraulic hose division also, it rivals the Parker store. To my knowledge they are the only place in town that can custom make DOT approved brake hoses on the spot. Have used them many times along with hydraquip (formerly emrich & Hill) & the Parker store.

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well, that would make more sense - but the Napa guys didnΓÇÖt exactly say it with conviction and didnΓÇÖt really even lead me to believe they knew what the part was that I was holding [emoji23][emoji31] good to know about Whistler - thx!

Post by **airbur** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 am

Hydraulic lines used to scare me....it was one of those things I had never attempted before.

It's not a big deal. Order hose and fittiings from Summit (a few bandaids from Walgreens if you're doing braided stainless), and you're good to go. Way cheap and you can make perfect custom lengths with whatever fittings you need.

Post by **ScottBarnes** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:42 am

airbur wrote:Hydraulic lines used to scare me....it was one of those things I had never attempted before.

It's not a big deal. Order hose and fittiings from Summit (a few bandaids from Walgreens if you're doing braided stainless), and you're good to go. Way cheap and you can make perfect custom lengths with whatever fittings you need.

I think thatΓÇÖs where IΓÇÖm at with this fitting. I spent some quality youtube time over the past couple of days and decided I can make the fitting myself with the right tools. IΓÇÖll give it a go - can screw up much with this one since itΓÇÖs low pressure! Thanks for the encouragement.

Post by **airbur** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:53 am

ScottBarnes wrote:
airbur wrote:Hydraulic lines use to scare me....it was one of those things I had never attempted before.

It's not a big deal. Order hose and fittiings from Summit (a few bandaids from Walgreens if you're doing braided stainless), and you're good to go. Way cheap and you can make perfect custom lengths with whatever fittings you need.
I think thatΓÇÖs where IΓÇÖm at with this fitting. I spent some quality youtube time over the past couple of days and decided I can make the fitting myself with the right tools. IΓÇÖll give it a go - can screw up much with this one since itΓÇÖs low pressure! Thanks for the encouragement.

Even if it's high pressure...no biggie.

Protruck15 · Post by **Protruck15** » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:45 am

Hey Scott,
If you need I think i have an extra AN adapter for the steering box if you need. I am almost ready to make new lines for mine also a dual line power steering pump and i have a spare that i am bring to baja.
Let me know if need.
Mike

Post by **Digger** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:17 am

ScottBarnes wrote:I installed a dual return PS pump, and the bend in the low pressure fitting on the gear box is too severe now. I'm sure I can cut off the line with a tubing cutter, but would prefer to get a new line so I've got some sort of "barb" on the end to keep the 3/8" id hose from slipping off. Does anyone know where I can get a new line made locally?

Hey Scott - Is that a 45┬░ flare fitting or O-ring fitting going into the box?

I have a tubing flaring kit, but my FIL is borrowing it right now. I could help you with fabbing a new line or modding the old one depending on your timeline.

Post by **Justin** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:10 am

I'm with Airbur. I did all the lines on my power steering, hydroboost and suspension. Blew one the moment I pressurized it on the first one I did, but no issues since. It made a spectacular mess.

Post by **ScottBarnes** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:39 am

Digger wrote:
ScottBarnes wrote:I installed a dual return PS pump, and the bend in the low pressure fitting on the gear box is too severe now. I'm sure I can cut off the line with a tubing cutter, but would prefer to get a new line so I've got some sort of "barb" on the end to keep the 3/8" id hose from slipping off. Does anyone know where I can get a new line made locally?

Hey Scott - Is that a 45┬░ flare fitting or O-ring fitting going into the box?

I have a tubing flaring kit, but my FIL is borrowing it right now. I could help you with fabbing a new line or modding the old one depending on your timeline.

That would be awesome! I bought a kit, but it must not been certified for steel tubing because I bent the handle the first try and the tubing didn't even begin to flare! I really want to learn how to do this because I not only want to change this power steering fitting, I want to plumb a AT cooler that I've mounted up. Here's the fitting that goes into the box. I've bought steel tubing and SS hose with some fittings, but it's all just sitting in boxes because I'm just sort of stuck. One of the problems is that I don't know fitting types/sizes, etc... so not even sure what to buy at this point! LOL sad....

Post by **Jesus_man** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:53 pm

The cooler is likely AN fitting, maybe a somewhere between a a -3 and -5? The steel fitting in your hand is probably a inverted flare, same used in brake systems. Ironically, I think the thread size/pitch is the same you would find on a bolt. 1/2"-20 or maybe larger? Take that fitting to the hardware store and start trying to thread nuts onto it.

Speedwaymotors.com might be a good source for your AN fittings, then you can do like airbur did.

Post by **Kinder** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:28 pm

Best local source for AN fittings is Emrich & Hill in Denver, it actually has a new name that IΓÇÖll try to remember. SS tubing is harder than mild steel tubing, not sure if a regular tool will hold up.

Post by **ScottBarnes** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:47 am

Protruck15 wrote:Hey Scott,
If you need I think i have an extra AN adapter for the steering box if you need. I am almost ready to make new lines for mine also a dual line power steering pump and i have a spare that i am bring to baja.
Let me know if need.
Mike

Thanks Mike -- do you have a part# for the adapter? the low pressure side, right?

Protruck15 · Post by **Protruck15** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:39 am

Scott,
I think this is the part number

AEROQUIP FBM2964 AN-6 ADAPTER

o 3/8 Male Inverted Flare to AN-6 Male Adapter
o S.A.E. 37 / 45 Flare (JIC/AN) 5/8-18 thread
o For use with Aeroquip TFE AN-6 Spec Hose
o Silver Zinc Dichromate Finish Mild Steel
o Fits most 1979 and older Saginaw P Series Pumps with
3/8 flare female output / Saginaw Box Low Pressure Return
This is from the Hydratech
I think i have an extra one i can look tonight if you need it?
You can also get them at summit, jegs or amazon.
Mike

Post by **ScottBarnes** » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:54 pm

Protruck15 wrote:Scott,
I think this is the part number

AEROQUIP FBM2964 AN-6 ADAPTER

o 3/8 Male Inverted Flare to AN-6 Male Adapter
o S.A.E. 37 / 45 Flare (JIC/AN) 5/8-18 thread
o For use with Aeroquip TFE AN-6 Spec Hose
o Silver Zinc Dichromate Finish Mild Steel
o Fits most 1979 and older Saginaw P Series Pumps with
3/8 flare female output / Saginaw Box Low Pressure Return
This is from the Hydratech
I think i have an extra one i can look tonight if you need it?
You can also get them at summit, jegs or amazon.
Mike

Thanks Mike -- I'll grab one off summit. See ya soon!

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