Saggy stance
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Saggy stance
Installed a WH 3.5ΓÇ¥ suspension years ago, probably 2010. WH front springs are known to settle a fair bit during first year, which mine did, so I installed 4.5ΓÇ¥ springs up front.
Now, a couple years later, the rear seems to be settling / sagging and I️ don’t like the stance.
ANy input on what to expect if I were to get new 3.5ΓÇ¥ springs ?
Now, a couple years later, the rear seems to be settling / sagging and I️ don’t like the stance.
ANy input on what to expect if I were to get new 3.5ΓÇ¥ springs ?
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Re: Saggy stance
I'm a fan of Prerunner sag (ofcaorse I'm odd X desert guy). Could always do a thin add-a-leaf... just a thought
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Re: Saggy stance
Add more weight to the front. Mine has finally settled out after sitting nose low for years.
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Re: Saggy stance
you could have your springs re-arched @ Denver spring.
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Re: Saggy stance
To be honest I would not have your springs re-arched. I worked at Denver spring for a year and saw the process they use. The re-arch rarley lasts especially if your gonna wheel it and stress the springs. They will probably offer to add a leaf also but it most likely will be one big thick leaf and ride rougher and hurt articulation.
When I redid my springs two years ago. I ordered 2" fronts and 3.5" rears...... Now with all my tools. New rear bumper, high lift, spare, full 24gal fuel I sag a 1/2". Wish I would of bought 4.5" rears. These are deavers from Jeff's.
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When I redid my springs two years ago. I ordered 2" fronts and 3.5" rears...... Now with all my tools. New rear bumper, high lift, spare, full 24gal fuel I sag a 1/2". Wish I would of bought 4.5" rears. These are deavers from Jeff's.
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Re: Saggy stance
good to know that it seems to be a short term solution.
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Re: Saggy stance
Mine did that as well. I ended up ordering a new set of 11-leafs from Tom's. Now it's level. I think wheeling is just hard on them all.
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Re: Saggy stance
Do you think it will continue to sag worse?
What is the measurement between the rear axle & frame?
Will you loose important wheel clearance in the front if you drop to a shorter front spring, to match the existing rear lift?
Get a damn winch!
What is the measurement between the rear axle & frame?
Will you loose important wheel clearance in the front if you drop to a shorter front spring, to match the existing rear lift?
Get a damn winch!
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Re: Saggy stance
....I'm interested in your Old Saggys!
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Re: Saggy stance
Dirtheadz wrote:I'm a fan of Prerunner sag (ofcaorse I'm odd X desert guy). Could always do a thin add-a-leaf... just a thought
Would be cheap and easy to add a small leaf to each side and see how it sits and rides..
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Re: Saggy stance
Gunnibronco wrote:Do you think it will continue to sag worse?
What is the measurement between the rear axle & frame?
Will you loose important wheel clearance in the front if you drop to a shorter front spring, to match the existing rear lift?
Get a damn winch!
IΓÇÖll post up that measurement for shits-n-giggles.
I think I will add a winch as first step before deciding what to do with rear springs.
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Re: Saggy stance
Maybe you could hang some truck nuts off the front bumper to help your saggy problem.
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Re: Saggy stance
Well, got a helluva good deal on a Warn winch at 4WP sale this week end.
Also, while working on the rear end this week end i found that the axle shim on the driverΓÇÖs side had rotated such that it was almost perpendicular to the leaf springs. Pounded it back in line which should help a little.
WeΓÇÖll see what the winch does.
Also, while working on the rear end this week end i found that the axle shim on the driverΓÇÖs side had rotated such that it was almost perpendicular to the leaf springs. Pounded it back in line which should help a little.
WeΓÇÖll see what the winch does.
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Re: Saggy stance
Rox Crusher wrote:Well, got a helluva good deal on a Warn winch at 4WP sale this week end.
Also, while working on the rear end this week end i found that the axle shim on the driverΓÇÖs side had rotated such that it was almost perpendicular to the leaf springs. Pounded it back in line which should help a little.
WeΓÇÖll see what the winch does.
If you havenΓÇÖt already, I would check the torque on the u bolts.
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Re: Saggy stance
landshark wrote:Rox Crusher wrote:Well, got a helluva good deal on a Warn winch at 4WP sale this week end.
Also, while working on the rear end this week end i found that the axle shim on the driverΓÇÖs side had rotated such that it was almost perpendicular to the leaf springs. Pounded it back in line which should help a little.
WeΓÇÖll see what the winch does.
If you havenΓÇÖt already, I would check the torque on the u bolts.
I set the torque wrench to ΓÇ£stupid tightΓÇ¥
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Re: Saggy stance
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Both of my son's favorite torque setting as well...
I set the torque wrench to ΓÇ£stupid tightΓÇ¥[/quote]
Both of my son's favorite torque setting as well...
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Re: Saggy stance
Well, I think I found the real culprit.
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Re: Saggy stance
Rox Crusher wrote:Well, I think I found the real culprit.
Nice find.
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Re: Saggy stance
Heavy Duty Boomerang styled rear spring shackles.http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268954
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Re: Saggy stance
I'll bet that was making a little racket!
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sykanr0ng wrote:Heavy Duty Boomerang styled rear spring shackles.http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268954
those look interesting
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Re: Saggy stance
Jesus_man wrote:I'll bet that was making a little racket!
surprisingly not, but I had noticed it was riding a bit harsher
the silver lining is I decided to order new shocks (to smooth out the ride) and finally ordered a winch (to level it front to rear) before discovering this problem
Bronco Karma at it's finest
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