Black Smoke Donkey
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I was at 4 wheel parts buying a new Odyssey and I told the guy it was for my Bronco. He pulled his phone and showed me a picture of BSD and told me it was the craziest Bronco he had ever seen in a parking lot. I told him that the owner and Mad Scientist who built it was is a friend of mine. Looks like you've got some secret admirers at 4 wheel parts.
TJ
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"Everyone suspects himself of at least one of the cardinal virtues, and this is mine: I am one of the few honest people I have ever known."
F. Scott Fitzgerald
1974 Ford Bronco 3 1/2 inch James Duff lift ,2 inch body lift, 351w Explorer EFI, Viper built c4, Viper built Dana 20 with wildhorses twin stick, Kinder built Dana 44 with 4.56 gears disc brakes aussie locker and knuckle over conversion, Kinder built 9 inch with grizzly locker 31 spline axles and 4.56 gear
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Ha, I canΓÇÖt hide anymore. I was up there buying a new drop hitch if it was a recent picture. With the addition of the D60 and 37s my old hitch wouldnΓÇÖt work with my little utility trailer that I was keeping the camper on.
With 35s and 9ΓÇ¥

With 37s and D60

With 35s and 9ΓÇ¥

With 37s and D60

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Wow what a difference. Looks good Kirk.
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What a machine!
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ItΓÇÖs
that bigger tires and axles can make the fenders almost look white!! IΓÇÖm sure you get lots of lookers when your out and about.
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that bigger tires and axles can make the fenders almost look white!! IΓÇÖm sure you get lots of lookers when your out and about. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Those 37's look great with the Prerunner fenders 
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While trying to overcome my sadness on not being able to make the wheeling trip this weekend I decided to pull out all my junk that lΓÇÖve set aside for the front axle upgrade on BSD. Now I just need to find some time between family, school and work to get it started, IΓÇÖll probably just shove it all in the corner, wish me luck.




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Bronco, family, Bronco, school, Bronco and work...
You're a BEAST!!!
You're a BEAST!!!
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[quote="Kinder"]While trying to overcome my sadness on not being able to make the wheeling trip this weekend I decided to pull out all my junk
This sounds like the first step to either a great BUILD thread or a really bad XXX movie
This sounds like the first step to either a great BUILD thread or a really bad XXX movie
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If you need an extra set of hands to get things cranked out, let me know!
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colby45 wrote:If you need an extra set of hands to get things cranked out, let me know!
Will do, when I get to the part where I try to get it under the Bronco IΓÇÖd appreciate the help.
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Kinder wrote:Will do, when I get to the part where I try to get it under the Bronco IΓÇÖd appreciate the help.
I can do that! Just let me know when. Now that summer is winding down, so is my schedule.
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Found a few minutes to tear the D60 down a bit more; hubs, spindles, axles and diff out. New high steer arms with integrated springless kingpin adjustment installed (the stock spring loaded bushing/bearing tension system doesnΓÇÖt work with big tires) and I also mocked up the tie rod. Next is ARB and gear change, while continuing to massage the C wedges into shape.


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Very nice , every little bit of garage time adds up to compleation 
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BSD did itΓÇÖs annual parks volunteer work, used the winch to pull out two telephone poles that were stringers for a pedestrian bridge. IΓÇÖll guess they weighed around 750-1000 lbs each. This will be the third bridge IΓÇÖve replace at Roxborough. IΓÇÖm grateful that Jake, a VOC volunteer, helps me with them, heΓÇÖs been doing this kind of work for 60 years and is a great mentor.








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Sure makes a great work horse!!
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What a great setup!! Who's running around on chains?
1973 Bronco, 351 SEFI, Locked, discs, 35's ZF-5spd and Atlas 4spd. 235:1 Crawl Ratio. It may be ugly, but it's slow.
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Jesus_man wrote:What a great setup!! Who's running around on chains?
All the hunters with street tires, it was a sloppy mess getting in before the season started. Luckily it started to dry out when we were leaving.
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So cool! Love the Pinto.Kinder wrote:Always happy when my mud tires get muddy.
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If I never do another D60 ARB install itΓÇÖll be too soon, of course I still have the rear axle to do, ha.

And how many adapters does it take to go from 1/4ΓÇ¥ drive to 3/4ΓÇ¥ drive so I can check the pinion preload? The same number of licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop, three.


And how many adapters does it take to go from 1/4ΓÇ¥ drive to 3/4ΓÇ¥ drive so I can check the pinion preload? The same number of licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop, three.

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Fun!
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I am about to impart some very vague and uninformed wisdom..........
the O-rings on the ARB in my 9" diff started leaking during our last wheeling trip. leaking so bad the locker wouldn't stay engaged and the compressor stayed running forever and pushed a bunch of oil out of the diff. My ARB probably only have 15k miles on them.
I was talking to Jason about it and he said that Spidertrax had (may still have?) some upgraded o-ring / sealing solution to prevent this.
I haven't had time to look into it further but will be doing so over the winter
probably not critical on the front since carrier isn't always spinning but the rear is another story
the O-rings on the ARB in my 9" diff started leaking during our last wheeling trip. leaking so bad the locker wouldn't stay engaged and the compressor stayed running forever and pushed a bunch of oil out of the diff. My ARB probably only have 15k miles on them.
I was talking to Jason about it and he said that Spidertrax had (may still have?) some upgraded o-ring / sealing solution to prevent this.
I haven't had time to look into it further but will be doing so over the winter
probably not critical on the front since carrier isn't always spinning but the rear is another story
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My O-ring on my rear start leaking in Baja as well. DoesnΓÇÖt sound as bad as JeffΓÇÖs but it was pushing oil up through the solenoid.
IΓÇÖd be interested in knowing what this upgrade is as I will probably look to fix it later this winter as well.
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IΓÇÖd be interested in knowing what this upgrade is as I will probably look to fix it later this winter as well.
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Eck wrote:My O-ring on my rear start leaking in Baja as well. DoesnΓÇÖt sound as bad as JeffΓÇÖs but it was pushing oil up through the solenoid.
IΓÇÖd be interested in knowing what this upgrade is as I will probably look to fix it later this winter as well.
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I just sent an email to spidertrax asking if they have something
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Eck wrote:My O-ring on my rear start leaking in Baja as well.
Probably got some bad fish tacos.
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Viperwolf1 wrote:Eck wrote:My O-ring on my rear start leaking in Baja as well.
Probably got some bad fish tacos.
Well played.
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Rox Crusher wrote:
I just sent an email to spidertrax asking if they have something
Please share the results, I just put an ARB in WillemΓÇÖs 9ΓÇ¥ this last year. I can say the seals are the same design regardless of differential type, but the setup is completely different.
Rox & Eck, how long (years and/or months) have you been running them before the leak started?
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Mine have been in for 3 years
When did you install them ?
When did you install them ?
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Mine works great but I just put it in this year. Curious as to what this fix is. Did anyone contact ARB about the issue?
Rob
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74 Ranger EFI351w, 4r70w, ARB 5.13 9in, ARB 5.13D44, and a bunch of other goodies. Best of all the family memories.
04 Mustang Cobra, KenneBell 2.2 feeding a lot of boost on E85. Tire shredding machine
New project: 77 Bronco Ranger, body work and more body work.
Very little left of a 72 durango tan explorer sport
