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IΓÇÖve had mine in for a couple of years. One of the guys on our trip that races down there and runs a steering shop said itΓÇÖs a ΓÇ£commonΓÇ¥ failure and knew exactly where the leak was when I was getting oil coming through the solenoid.

I too would be interested to find out what they say about the upgrade.


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The part we made for the ARB RD99 locker was an engagement collar. We stopped making it as ARB upgrade the collar to a stronger version. I am not aware of an upgrade seal kit but wish you luck in your search.

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Thanks for following up, I guess weΓÇÖll continue to fix as necessary.
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This situation is very common it can be caused by interference from the adjuster lock. The lock often needs to be machined so that the air supply collar fits freely. Most of the time it's the alignment not the seals. I believe ARB provided an action update for this.
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horseplay wrote:This situation is very common it can be caused by interference from the adjuster lock. The lock often needs to be machined so that the air supply collar fits freely. Most of the time it's the alignment not the seals. I believe ARB provided an action update for this.


Do you know how recently ARB provided this update ? Mine are about 3 or 4 years old if I recall correctly.
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I'm not sure when I get settled into my new shop here in Grand Junction I'll see if I can find out.
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A little solar power for the Bronco camper. We struggled this fall when hunting to keep the lights on so it was time for an upgrade.

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A good solar setup goes a long ways. Dad has 2 145watt panels on his camper. A good charge controller and we dont ever need to run the generator.
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Diesel and solar? Talk about playing both sides!
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The solar is up and running, but I need to sort out the battery storage options. IΓÇÖve got a old 100ah AGM in at the moment but itΓÇÖs too old to keep up with the loads IΓÇÖd like to run. I can afford to buy a new AGM(s) to get to 200ah or save up some money and go Lithium. The newer battery tech is nice, but the price point hurts.
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Go 2 6volt golf cart batteries. The capacity is insane with them.
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ZOSO wrote:Go 2 6volt golf cart batteries. The capacity is insane with them.


IΓÇÖve read that, my issue is space, IΓÇÖm still designing the layout so I need to designate some space. I may try to locate them under the rear passenger floorboard. Since I stretched that area it might be a good place.
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they are smaller in width but taller than say a 27series battery. Would be worth while to figure out how to make room for them.
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Dad also has one of these. It monitors how many amps are being pulled or charged. Also measures amphours. It's a very good way of keeping track of the batteries. He has the TM-2030-A

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Well... this is going to slow down my upgrade. The passenger tube is bent, about 15mm or 1/2 inch towards the topside of the axle. It did come out of a farm truck, but IΓÇÖd like to know what they were doing to bend a D60 tube. Maybe the kids went for a joy ride and jumped it.

Anyway, any recommendations for a shop that could try to straighten it before I go the replacement route, maybe Crawlertech?

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That sucks, I wouldnΓÇÖt have thought to check that.
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Update, Crawlertech is closed for business, Josh replied to my email and said bring it to the Flopshop where he and Jon can sort it out.
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Thanks for update. Crawltech would have been my suggestion so it's sad to hear they are closed but good to hear he is still in the business!
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I would have also never thought to check straightness on D60 crazy , I've seen some work that the Flopshop has done on a truck in the neighborhood and looks great, also sorry to hear about Crawlertech so has Josh teamed up with the Flopshop?
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Talked with Jon at The Flop Shop today, IΓÇÖm going to try and drop the axle off this week. IΓÇÖm glad to hear the positive words about the shop. Josh said he is leaving Colorado, so I think heΓÇÖs just doing work at The Flop Shop until he leaves
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That's bad, but fixable.

My old boss and I straighten out a JK rear HD44 in Moab after some enthusiastic product testing (think Dukes of Hazard). It was bent bad, but we straighten basically perfect with a bottle jack and transport chain. After double-checking it on the alignment machine at work, the axle is still running 6 years later.

You can bend or unbend one side more than the other by moving the jack around. The JK axle wasn't bent symmetrically and after getting it close, we had to move the jack to affect the passenger side more than drivers.

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I actually thought about trying to straighten it myself. I was thinking an nice I-beam, my 20 ton hydraulic bottle jack, a nice 3/8 chain, my torch and maybe a small jig. But I have a promise to keep with the Camaro coming into the garage this week for a new clutch and the suspension work.
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Fair enough.

FYI - It is very easy to bend an axle housing with a 20 ton jack. We nulled out a toe-in problem on a Toyota rear axle last year using the same method.
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Kirk, could you please let me know what you get quoted?
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Will do, I have a rough over the phone price now, but I hope to hear from Jon early next week after heΓÇÖs had a chance to straighten it out.

I talked with him for a few, they have some cool builds happening at the shop. He really liked BSD, which was nice, it doesnΓÇÖt make everyone happy, per the social media haters, ha!
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Housing is toast. I know itΓÇÖs a long shot but if anyone has a lead on a 1978-1979 D60 housing or complete axle let me know.
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Kinder wrote:Housing is toast. I know itΓÇÖs a long shot but if anyone has a lead on a 1978-1979 D60 housing or complete axle let me know.


Damn. That's a bit of a unicorn.... may I suggest this;

http://www.spidertrax.com/products/Axle-Housings
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crawlercreations wrote:
Kinder wrote:
Damn. That's a bit of a unicorn.... may I suggest this;

http://www.spidertrax.com/products/Axle-Housings


Thanks, IΓÇÖm definitely considering going aftermarket if I canΓÇÖt find something local and soonΓÇÖish. I have a set of Kingpin Cs that I could have welded to a housing.
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Kinder wrote:Housing is toast. I know itΓÇÖs a long shot but if anyone has a lead on a 1978-1979 D60 housing or complete axle let me know.



Dang. Is the center section messed up?
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Does it need to be a 78-9? Car-part.com is showing a 1991 in Grand Junction. Pumpkin is offset more to the DS, so the shaft lengths are different.
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