Reading salvage yard motor mileage
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Reading salvage yard motor mileage
Okay, odd question for you EFI savvy guys out there. Viper, I'm looking seriously at you to be the man on this one.
Let's say I'm at the salvage yard and spot what appears to be a pretty clean EFI motor. Maybe I pull the heads and pan and everything looks great, but I really want to know how many miles might be on this motor.
So, I'm thinking to myself "Is there any way you can think of that I can apply power to the PCM in order to read the odometer for mileage?" Keep in mind, there are no batteries in the salvage yard cars (would be looking to bring my own battery pack in with me) and wiring harnesses will likely be butchered.
So, what voltage of battery pack would I need to bring; what pin on the PCM do I need to apply power to; and what pins on the PCM and dash display harness do I need to wire together to be able to read the odo?
I hope there isn't a really simple answer to this.
Let's say I'm at the salvage yard and spot what appears to be a pretty clean EFI motor. Maybe I pull the heads and pan and everything looks great, but I really want to know how many miles might be on this motor.
So, I'm thinking to myself "Is there any way you can think of that I can apply power to the PCM in order to read the odometer for mileage?" Keep in mind, there are no batteries in the salvage yard cars (would be looking to bring my own battery pack in with me) and wiring harnesses will likely be butchered.
So, what voltage of battery pack would I need to bring; what pin on the PCM do I need to apply power to; and what pins on the PCM and dash display harness do I need to wire together to be able to read the odo?
I hope there isn't a really simple answer to this.
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1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One
1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One
1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Re: Reading salvage yard motor mileage
OBDI ECM's don't keep track of miles. '96 and later vehicles do (probably in the body ECM, not engine ECM) but I don't know if it's possible to pull that info without a real ($$$) scantool.
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Re: Reading salvage yard motor mileage
How do the OBDI vehicles with digital odo's store the data? My '93 Bronco had the digital and I always assumed it was the ECM that was telling it what to store.
Stroppe'd
1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One
1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One
1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Shawns Fords
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Re: Reading salvage yard motor mileage
you need to power up the instrument panel. If you ever had to replace one from the Dealer, they would send in current mileage and the new one will come with mileage pre set before showing up.
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Re: Reading salvage yard motor mileage
That certainly sounds much easier than trying to power the ECM and then wiring the gauge clusters.
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1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One
1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One
1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Shawns Fords
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Re: Reading salvage yard motor mileage
if the harness is still there, just hook up battery as normal, then drop the actual ignition switch from the column and slide the lever to power up. You could even see if anything else works, listen to the radio, have a party...who knows?
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Re: Reading salvage yard motor mileage
69 Bronco 69 wrote:if the harness is still there, just hook up battery as normal, then drop the actual ignition switch from the column and slide the lever to power up. You could even see if anything else works, listen to the radio, have a party...who knows?
If I recall correctly, they do not allow car batteries in the yard. Something about people starting fires or what not. I figured a 12v, small amperage battery pack in the tool box would be enough to give me what I want.
Stroppe'd
1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One
1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
1972 Sport, 302, 3 speed with old school Duff floor shifter, T shift Dana 20 with JB Fab twin stick, 4.11 gears with Trac-loc, Lincoln hydroboost, Chevy disc conversion, WH gas lift gate shock kit, 33" Duratrac tires on slots and about 2.5" of lift, Stroppe installed: bumper braces, dual shocks on all four corners, GM power steering, trans cooler mount, auto shift column, rollbar.
The Terrible One
1972 Sport uncut, 302, C4 with 1974 column , T shift Dana 20, 3.50 gears w/ limited slip, 1966 U13 Roadster kick panel, and factory power steering.
1973 Stroppe Baja project
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Re: Reading salvage yard motor mileage
Bring a jump pack if you have one available. If you can get power to the system, many cars & trucks will turn on the odometer by pushing the trip reset button (if it has one).
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Re: Reading salvage yard motor mileage
I dont know about all yards, but the last time I was looking at some seats I wanted, I needed power and I asked the front desk, they told me if I need power I can ask them and they have ones to use to power up the car to move things like that. They may even be able to find out the mileage on the vehicle when it was brought in. Depending on if they are in a nice mood or not. 

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Re: Reading salvage yard motor mileage
You can power up with a small 9 volt as well. I use a 9 volt batt. to save memory on cars when changing batteries.
