Replacing 9" yoke - new crush sleeve?

Post by **Jesus_man** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:16 am

I am replacing the yoke on my 9". Do I need to replace the crush sleeve or can I just replace the seal and torque the pinion yoke back on?

Thanks!

Post by **Kinder** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:39 am

IΓÇÖd say the proper way is to replace the crush sleeve, but then youΓÇÖll have to pull the pinion to get the setting right. And if you are going to pull the pinion IΓÇÖd use a crush sleeve eliminator.

Post by **ZOSO** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:42 am

Agree with Kirk. I'd put in a crush sleeve eliminator and be done with it.

Post by **Jesus_man** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:58 am

I was youtube'ing and came to the same conclusion...but if I do that, then I need to reset the ring gear as well correct? I would assume the pinion depth would change a bit if I replace any part of the pinion assembly.

Post by **Kinder** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:13 pm

No need to reset the gears if you donΓÇÖt mess with the pinion bearings or the pinion shim(s). YouΓÇÖre going to need a dial or beam inch pound torque wrench to get the preload correct.

IΓÇÖll add that you want to get the ΓÇ£feelΓÇ¥ of how much backlash you have before you tear into it and compare that to what you have after. It shouldnΓÇÖt change.

Post by **Jesus_man** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:53 pm

Ahh, that's right! The shims for the pinion depth are under the pinion retainer... Wow, so rusty!

Ok, so I'll order the eliminator kit, a new seal and a yoke. Everything else should be good to go!

BTW found what appears to be a nice forged yoke for $60 on amazon!

Post by **Gunnibronco** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:27 pm

When I was looking at gears for my F250, I found this site. Very good price for a crush sleeve eliminator. Lots of good reviews of the seller.

http://www.ratechmfg.com/pop_up_order%204105.htm

Post by **ZOSO** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:49 am

Jesus_man wrote:Ahh, that's right! The shims for the pinion depth are under the pinion retainer... Wow, so rusty!

Ok, so I'll order the eliminator kit, a new seal and a yoke. Everything else should be good to go!

BTW found what appears to be a nice forged yoke for $60 on amazon!

Link to said yoke? I am going to order a new one when I do my gears

Post by **ZOSO** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:51 am

And watch what crush sleeve kit you get. My buddy ordered one for his 8.8 and it only came with 4 shims and we could not get it right with what they provided. Good thing I have kept all my old ones cause we needed them.

Post by **Jesus_man** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:21 am

Gunnibronco wrote:When I was looking at gears for my F250, I found this site. Very good price for a crush sleeve eliminator. Lots of good reviews of the seller.

http://www.ratechmfg.com/pop_up_order%204105.htm

Now you tell me...I just ordered the Yukon set for $47.xx !!

Zoso - a link to the forged yoke:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MQ ... UTF8&psc=1

No dust shield, but I may try to see if my old one will press on??

Post by **Jesus_man** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:29 pm

I'm hoping to get my rear axle operational again tomorrow, but I am struggling to find proper torque specs for the solid sleeve and how to go about it.

Looks like I need to remove the pinion retainer. I set this axle up 10+ years ago, and I am not confident it was 100% correct, so given the opportunity to make it a tad better, I'd like to know what the torque specs should be for everything as I go back together with it, including housing bolts, etc. I do have an in/lb torque wrench I can borrow.

Anyone have those laying around?

Post by **Kinder** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:42 pm

Used pinion bearing preload is 6-7 inch pounds.

Post by **Jesus_man** » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:06 pm

Wow that's lower than I expected. Thought I saw new is 25in/lbs

Post by **Jesus_man** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:17 pm

This could go in the "SUX" thread!! I fought getting the pinion out of the retainer for about an hour, smashing my knuckle in the process (no press) to discover the setup already had a crush sleeve eliminator in it!! So waiting on these parts was a waste of time. I guess I get to return the kit I bought.

But it has no oil slinger. How important is that?? And now, should I also order a new yoke nut?

Post by **landshark** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:49 pm

You should use a new yoke nut but as they are technically one use. But donΓÇÖt tell anyone, I have reused a few with no ill affects. Just used some blue thread locker.

Post by **Jesus_man** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:20 pm

landshark wrote:You should use a new yoke nut but as they are technically one use. But donΓÇÖt tell anyone, I have reused a few with no ill affects. Just used some blue thread locker.

I figured as much. It's all back together now and I'll replace the nut next time. No oil slinger either as it appears it's only critical on reverse rotation axles...

The u-joint ended up being a little tighter than I would have likes, but I hope it'll ride a while!

Post by **Eck** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:33 pm

I got a package of those nuts from Fastenal if you have one near you.

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Post by **Jesus_man** » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:22 pm

Huh...fastenal never ceases to amaze! I do have one. But it's all buttoned up for the time being...

Post by **Jesus_man** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:40 pm

So while the new forged yoke survived the trip, it clearly doesn't have the clearances a factory one does:

Time to get the die grounder out for some clearancing!

Post by **ZOSO** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:12 am

JD your picture about the yoke did not show up. I am curious as to what the issue was. Im ready to order one up.

Post by **Jesus_man** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:59 am

I have a pretty severe driveshaft angle so you may not have trouble but there was an interference where the cap bosses contacted the valleys of the yoke. Not crazy

tho. Pm me your number and I'll text you pic.

Post by **Jesus_man** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:16 pm

Let me try to link the picture again:

Post by **Rox Crusher** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:31 pm

It doesnΓÇÖt look like you had to shave off much.

Any concern about balance \ vibration as a result ?

Post by **ZOSO** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:22 pm

Yea thats not much. But just enough. good to know. I'll likely order that yoke up in the next few days.

Post by **Jesus_man** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:47 pm

The picture is after the self clearance. So I ground it out a bit more and tried to make it as symmetrical as possible.

That being said, I haven't driven it on the highway since. Been trying to address some other issues. So I am not sure of any vibration issues, or if I'd even notice them in my rig.

Post by **Kinder** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:23 am

IΓÇÖm not sure if any driveline shop could balance a yoke, worth a phone call though.

Post by **Rox Crusher** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:41 pm

JD - did you return the crush sleeve eliminator kit ?

If not, IΓÇÖm needing one and could buy yours from you.

LMK

Post by **Viperwolf1** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:48 pm

Rox Crusher wrote:JD - did you return the crush sleeve eliminator kit ?

If not, IΓÇÖm needing one and could buy yours from you.

LMK

What?

Post by **Rox Crusher** » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:35 pm

Viperwolf1 wrote:
Rox Crusher wrote:JD - did you return the crush sleeve eliminator kit ?

If not, IΓÇÖm needing one and could buy yours from you.

LMK
What?

It appears mine is leaking from the pumpkin to the housing and at the pinion cover. Gotta get a pinion seal and the other bits just in case.

Post by **Jesus_man** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:27 am

Sorry man, I did return it. Not sure what was in the axle, but this is the one I bought:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00 ... UTF8&psc=1

www.ColoradoClassicBroncos.com