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Saggy stance

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:03 pm
by Rox Crusher
Installed a WH 3.5ΓÇ¥ suspension years ago, probably 2010. WH front springs are known to settle a fair bit during first year, which mine did, so I installed 4.5ΓÇ¥ springs up front.

Now, a couple years later, the rear seems to be settling / sagging and I️ don’t like the stance.

ANy input on what to expect if I were to get new 3.5ΓÇ¥ springs ?

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:12 pm
by Dirtheadz
I'm a fan of Prerunner sag (ofcaorse I'm odd X desert guy). Could always do a thin add-a-leaf... just a thought

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:34 pm
by ZOSO
Add more weight to the front. Mine has finally settled out after sitting nose low for years.

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:31 pm
by horseplay
you could have your springs re-arched @ Denver spring.

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:10 am
by BroncoCrawler
To be honest I would not have your springs re-arched. I worked at Denver spring for a year and saw the process they use. The re-arch rarley lasts especially if your gonna wheel it and stress the springs. They will probably offer to add a leaf also but it most likely will be one big thick leaf and ride rougher and hurt articulation.

When I redid my springs two years ago. I ordered 2" fronts and 3.5" rears...... Now with all my tools. New rear bumper, high lift, spare, full 24gal fuel I sag a 1/2". Wish I would of bought 4.5" rears. These are deavers from Jeff's.

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Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:13 am
by horseplay
good to know that it seems to be a short term solution.

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:21 pm
by Jesus_man
Mine did that as well. I ended up ordering a new set of 11-leafs from Tom's. Now it's level. I think wheeling is just hard on them all.

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:40 pm
by Gunnibronco
Do you think it will continue to sag worse?

What is the measurement between the rear axle & frame?

Will you loose important wheel clearance in the front if you drop to a shorter front spring, to match the existing rear lift?

Get a damn winch!

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:51 am
by mickphatmac
....I'm interested in your Old Saggys!

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:21 pm
by landshark
Dirtheadz wrote:I'm a fan of Prerunner sag (ofcaorse I'm odd X desert guy). Could always do a thin add-a-leaf... just a thought


Would be cheap and easy to add a small leaf to each side and see how it sits and rides..

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:31 pm
by Rox Crusher
Gunnibronco wrote:Do you think it will continue to sag worse?

What is the measurement between the rear axle & frame?

Will you loose important wheel clearance in the front if you drop to a shorter front spring, to match the existing rear lift?

Get a damn winch!


IΓÇÖll post up that measurement for shits-n-giggles.

I think I will add a winch as first step before deciding what to do with rear springs.

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:27 pm
by Eck
Maybe you could hang some truck nuts off the front bumper to help your saggy problem.


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Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:02 pm
by Rox Crusher
Well, got a helluva good deal on a Warn winch at 4WP sale this week end.

Also, while working on the rear end this week end i found that the axle shim on the driverΓÇÖs side had rotated such that it was almost perpendicular to the leaf springs. Pounded it back in line which should help a little.

WeΓÇÖll see what the winch does.

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:22 pm
by landshark
Rox Crusher wrote:Well, got a helluva good deal on a Warn winch at 4WP sale this week end.

Also, while working on the rear end this week end i found that the axle shim on the driverΓÇÖs side had rotated such that it was almost perpendicular to the leaf springs. Pounded it back in line which should help a little.

WeΓÇÖll see what the winch does.


If you havenΓÇÖt already, I would check the torque on the u bolts.

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:18 am
by Rox Crusher
landshark wrote:
Rox Crusher wrote:Well, got a helluva good deal on a Warn winch at 4WP sale this week end.

Also, while working on the rear end this week end i found that the axle shim on the driverΓÇÖs side had rotated such that it was almost perpendicular to the leaf springs. Pounded it back in line which should help a little.

WeΓÇÖll see what the winch does.


If you havenΓÇÖt already, I would check the torque on the u bolts.


I set the torque wrench to ΓÇ£stupid tightΓÇ¥

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:13 am
by hockeydad4-22
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I set the torque wrench to ΓÇ£stupid tightΓÇ¥[/quote]


Both of my son's favorite torque setting as well...

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:32 pm
by Rox Crusher
Well, I think I found the real culprit.

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Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:20 pm
by landshark
Rox Crusher wrote:Well, I think I found the real culprit.

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Nice find.

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:30 pm
by sykanr0ng
Heavy Duty Boomerang styled rear spring shackles.http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268954

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:02 am
by Jesus_man
I'll bet that was making a little racket!

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:00 am
by Rox Crusher
sykanr0ng wrote:Heavy Duty Boomerang styled rear spring shackles.http://classicbroncos.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268954


those look interesting

Re: Saggy stance

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:02 am
by Rox Crusher
Jesus_man wrote:I'll bet that was making a little racket!


surprisingly not, but I had noticed it was riding a bit harsher

the silver lining is I decided to order new shocks (to smooth out the ride) and finally ordered a winch (to level it front to rear) before discovering this problem

Bronco Karma at it's finest