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Deciding on another project
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:47 pm
by pgilbeau
As the title says I am deciding on another project. I got the wife's blessing to go ahead with another project as long as I start learning some fab and welding, and it has to stay at the shop for the time being. That being said I am torn between two projects and looking for some input, I have access to both at this point.
Choice 1: The Couronco, its an old 1976 Ford Courier converted to 4x4 with CJ parts. My plan would be a full Bronco drive train- 289/NP435/D20, EB D44 and 9" with 33's.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/EwoKgbXpiVSkLNJm1Choice 2: Full on Bronco Buggy, D60, undecided rear, 406 FE motor, C6, Atlas, 40's, Longer wheel base
I have had the wheeling itch lately so leaning toward the buggy because I don't want to take my Bronco through trails like Carnage and Penrose
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:25 pm
by Justin
Buggy. So much buggy.
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:04 pm
by D&D72
BUGGY!

Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:20 am
by Rox Crusher
You had me at 406 FE
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:41 am
by pgilbeau
Rox Crusher wrote:You had me at 406 FE
I have been looking for a reason to do something with the 390 I have sitting, seems like its going to be hard to find a 4x4 C6 though. I suppose if I had to I could use the 351W I have and go 408. Decisions, decisions
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:09 am
by hockeydad4-22
These challenges are what make it an interesting project. Go with the buggy
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:39 am
by mickphatmac
C6....
https://fortcollins.craigslist.org/pts/ ... 29057.htmlI've bought some PS Pumps and PS Gears from this guy in the past. Good guy and used to rebuild Broncos as well!
or...
https://denver.craigslist.org/pts/d/c6- ... 47961.htmlSoooooo, looks like NO Excuses!!!
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:14 am
by pgilbeau
The Littleton one won't work, last year of the FE was '76 in the trucks as far as I know. I will check out the other guy, I overlooked that listing.
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:50 am
by mickphatmac
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:23 am
by pgilbeau
Fort Collins guy does not have a 4x4 C6. Appreciate the help looking. Most likely going to go ahead with the buggy, just got to make a plan and start shopping.
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:14 am
by Dirtheadz
pgilbeau wrote:Most likely going to go ahead with the buggy.
NICE!!! good choice
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:26 am
by pgilbeau
Dirtheadz wrote:pgilbeau wrote:Most likely going to go ahead with the buggy.
NICE!!! good choice
Running Chinamans and the wife actually enjoying the trip along with not wanting to run my Bronco through Carnage are playing a role in my decision.
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:54 pm
by Justin
I'd be inclined to do a 408 or 351 over the FE block for weight reasons anyway.
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:21 pm
by Rox Crusher
pgilbeau wrote:Rox Crusher wrote:You had me at 406 FE
I have been looking for a reason to do something with the 390 I have sitting, seems like its going to be hard to find a 4x4 C6 though. I suppose if I had to I could use the 351W I have and go 408. Decisions, decisions
LetΓÇÖs not waste your skills doing something as routine as a 408.
The FE would be a challenge for sure but man would it be a beast and a unique torque monster !
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:08 pm
by pgilbeau
Justin wrote:I'd be inclined to do a 408 or 351 over the FE block for weight reasons anyway.
At this point 351W/408 is my second choice. The FE can get lightened up, just getting rid of the steel intake saves weight.
Rox Crusher wrote:pgilbeau wrote:Rox Crusher wrote:You had me at 406 FE
I have been looking for a reason to do something with the 390 I have sitting, seems like its going to be hard to find a 4x4 C6 though. I suppose if I had to I could use the 351W I have and go 408. Decisions, decisions
LetΓÇÖs not waste your skills doing something as routine as a 408.
The FE would be a challenge for sure but man would it be a beast and a unique torque monster !
Agreed, it would be a torque monster and I just want to do something different. I am going to keep looking for a C6 for the FE. I have time to plan, its not going to happen over night.
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:49 am
by 71 Broncman
Buggy sounds like a cool project. I'd give the FE my vote for the low end grunt. Are you thinking about going with the Atlas on this one or a 205 doubler ? I'll ask around about a C6 with a couple of people I know.
Mark.
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:46 am
by pgilbeau
71 Broncman wrote:Buggy sounds like a cool project. I'd give the FE my vote for the low end grunt. Are you thinking about going with the Atlas on this one or a 205 doubler ? I'll ask around about a C6 with a couple of people I know.
Mark.
I am planning to go with an Atlas and I have already spoke with Advance Adapters. I am looking for a 4x4 C6 with the housing for a FE motor (360/390). Thanks for keeping an eye out.
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:30 am
by Jesus_man
I think both projects would be cool. The buggy's purpose is obvious, but the courier would be intended to do what? Build to sell?
As to rear axles, the cheapest is likely a 14b, but you'd want to shave it (make it a 13b). Or I think a custom ford 9" housing with 35splines would be just as strong, but save weight and clearance. Plus it still has some Ford flavor. It'll just be a bit more expensive.
Re: Deciding on another project
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:05 am
by pgilbeau
Jesus_man wrote:I think both projects would be cool. The buggy's purpose is obvious, but the courier would be intended to do what? Build to sell?
As to rear axles, the cheapest is likely a 14b, but you'd want to shave it (make it a 13b). Or I think a custom ford 9" housing with 35splines would be just as strong, but save weight and clearance. Plus it still has some Ford flavor. It'll just be a bit more expensive.
The Courier was something I thought would make a cool daily driver, was going to get a Bronco drive train and axles along with slots and 33's. Looks like the Courier is going to move on and a Bronco Buggy is in my future. Now trying to decide on the plans for it. Not sure if I will turn my current Bronco into the buggy and build a LUBR for a daily driver so I can let the diesel take a rest or?